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wheel interested 11-13-2006 09:59 PM

kitfoxdriver all the audio can work on battery power alone, the tv (video) monitor will not. The tv monitor needs shore power or an inverter and on an inverter will run your batteries down fast. The tv monitor can also be used for photo slide show presentations and as a large screen computer monitor.

AGM batteries can be charged and do charge faster, do not need maintainence like adding water, they are more expensive but they last through more cycles of charging and discharging and there is no outgassing of caustic chemicals and therefore can be stored and shipped safely inside enclosed areas. They can be brought to a full charge even after full discharge. They also hold their charge longer than regular flooded cell batteries do when not in use.

CanoeStream 11-14-2006 05:00 AM

Due to the sealed nature AGMs do not vent hydrogen. This allows some interior options on battery installation for those doing restorations, though one must hold wiring runs between umbilical, converter & batteries down to a minimum. Lead acid batteries must have ventilation to the outside.

WhiteyFord 11-14-2006 01:57 PM

more questions

We purchased our 2006/30'/Classic at Oasis in Tucson. You can not go wrong dealing with these folks.

Yes, met Joe about a year ago when I dropped in on him per your recommendation. I agree. He is a down to earth guy who trys hard for our business. He's our preferred dealer right now, but want to make certain we would be getting a competitive deal with him. Thanks, Mike, for referring Joe to us.

Canoe stream

[quote]Television? I haven't been tempted to even get into that when camping./QUOTE]

We enjoy viewinging our digital photos and dvds on a larger screen than our laptops and were hopeing the television would run on 12V. I guess if we really think that feature is important, we could get the invertor option (ouch $'s:sad: ).

Another question or two?? Is having both skylights something that will be enjoyable or just be a significant heat source? Is one or the other better than two and if so which one?
Also, do the fantastic fans have 2 way switches and rain sensors?

wheel interested 11-14-2006 03:11 PM

You can plug this inverter into the 12volt accessory plug and then the tv monitor into it. It is quite nice, tells you what charge you have in your batteries, and other readouts and safety features. And only cost $40.00+ A forum member told me about it and I am ever so glad he did. It workd like a charm.

Xantrex, XPower Digital Micro - 400 watts

I am thrilled with it and it's all I would have wanted to get the $600.00 inverter option for anyway. I have also used it in the truck to charge my camera batteries and run the laptop.

We are rarely where it is hot, but reflectex cut to fit would do the trick to keep blazing Florida sun out. I would think that the sky light in the living area to shed light on the lounge, table and galley would be preferable if choosing only one. The bath opening is not as large or as expensive as that one, but natural light in the bathroom area is a good thing too. But we are Northerners, you'll get a different insight from sun kissed Southerners, perhaps.

Airstream's Fantastic Vents are installed to vent out only. Fantastic Vent can supply parts and directions to make them reversable. Both front and back have rain sensors too.

WhiteyFord 11-15-2006 12:17 PM

Thanks, Carol. That's helpful information.:flowers:

vpurdy 03-11-2007 02:12 PM

before i bought an inverter to stay warm a couple of extra nights i'd plug my tv in and charge the inverter without a genset is a waste of time and will not keep up the you get very little use out of an inverter in acutuality in my opinion. my classic is prewired for solar but i'll never have it unless someone convinces me of its virtues.

overlander63 03-11-2007 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by vpurdy
my classic is prewired for solar but i'll never have it unless someone convinces me of its virtues.

Solar is great to keep the batteries fully charged while stored, as well as helping to bring them back up if you had to use the furnace while not plugged into shore power.
It's great for keeping up with low draw lighting, and keeping the 12 v stuff (like the circuit board on the fridge) energized while boondocking.
Then again, a Honda Eu1000 will do the same, day or night, rain or shine, for less money. It all depends on how power-independent you want to be.

altamont 03-11-2007 06:28 PM

Classic vs Safari SE with LS option? Weight difference is pretty significant as is price. My wife LOVES the SE interior.

As for solar, my wife insisted we get it. We boondock a lot and have constantly run out of battery. We went through 3 batteries in 2 seasons trying to find one big enough to get us through 3 days of boondocking. We only use TV option when on shore power and I wish sometimes we didn't even have that option as I like solitude and quiet. Generator a great option to have no matter what. We love our Yamaha 2400i.

bobf 03-11-2007 11:26 PM

Canoe Stream,
Don't want to divert this thread to inverters but noted your reference to using one for your TV. I just bought a 150 watt Samlex pure sine wave inverter which powers the TV just fine but creates a major backfeed type hum out of the stereo woofer. Have you noticed any similar effect from yours?

Foiled Again 03-12-2007 08:21 AM

Oooooh 27 Fb
I have the 25 FB SE Safari, and no offense to those who like the Classic look, I like the bare Aluminum...

If I win the lottery I'll buy a 27footer and about the only thing I'd do differently would be to get two Fantastic Fans instead of one fan and a plain vent in the bedroom. The vent has a white cover that will almost force you to be an early riser in the morning. Not good if the night before has consisted of late evening adult beverages. The fan cover is smoked.

Also if you do unplanned boondocking (flat tire) sleeping with a fan blowing DIRECTLY overhead is better! Fantastic does make them reversable... but apparently Airstream doesn't buy or install the reversable ones any more. (Of course I always have Velcro handy so I took my Endless Breeze fan and STUCK it over the open vent blowing down... then snnnnerkkkk!)


evsjr 06-12-2009 03:17 PM

2007 FB 27 Classic, owner's experience
I have had mine for about 1 1/2 years. Have made 1 big trip out west and numerous shorter trips including week stay with 2 grandkids. I cannot say enough good things about it. I continually find small refinements, well thought out that make the rig outstanding. So my list of negatives is into the picky range, but include:
a) limited outside storage. It is what it is; judge for yourself.
b) micro wave/ convection oven is confusing, but haven't taken the trouble to learn it.
c) can't pick up stations on the AM band.... the manual is in 14 languages, and is challenged in English.

It is a heavy rig. All of those features and solid wood add up. It has a loaded max wt. of 9000 lbs. , but easy to control loadout in the 8000 lb. range for me. Tows like a dream. I use a prodigy brake controller. Disc brakes are a big plus.

Of a size that that will fit most parks. Big enough for 2 on an extended trip.

I have the wrap-around windows in the bedroom. A nice feature that I seldom use. Without the wrap-arounds, you get small wardrobes on either side rather than nightstands. I actually like the night stands.

You can't go wrong. Buddy evsjr@skybest .com

bob34787 06-12-2009 04:03 PM

can anyone explain the logic between 27' and 28'? the 28' is 27'11" and the 27' is 28' in length. Why are there two different models for 1"?

Bluto 06-15-2009 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by bob34787 (Post 708949)
can anyone explain the logic between 27' and 28'? the 28' is 27'11" and the 27' is 28' in length. Why are there two different models for 1"?

Take a look at the layouts of the 2 units. Both different from each other.

bob34787 06-16-2009 04:06 AM

I guess my point is why is the 27. actually 28. in length and the 28' is 27'11"

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