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urbanfood 08-23-2007 06:38 PM

alrighty, making progress.

i'm taking my frame out to inland rv tomorrow to drop it off. they're going to put a 4000# axle, kodiak disc brake system, new tongue and manual tongue jack, and the airstream bal jacks (stabilizer).

i received and had mounted my marathon goodyear tires. the baby moons look very cute, can't wait to put them on.

i've also ordered several things today;

1. stainless steel 30 amp power inlet
https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...el+Power+Inlet

2. stainless steel water fill
https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...Water%2C+Waste

3. city water inlet
Save at RV Partscenter - RV Parts and Supply

4. shurflo smart sensor 4.0
Save at RV Partscenter - RV Parts and Supply

5. shurflo strainer
Save at RV Partscenter - RV Parts and Supply

6. fresh water tank vent (thanks safari tim for the link!)
eBay Motors: Stainless Steel Marine Fuel Tank Vent w/ Splash Guard (item 120109763014 end time Sep-13-07 10:43:57 PDT)

thanks to everyone for help and opinions in helping me select the above items. i'm still trying to figure out a good sewer cleaning solution. the post i made about using the sewer solution and quickie flush didn't seem to garner much positive response, so i'm rethinking that.

safari57 08-23-2007 07:09 PM

It's Christmas in August David. Outstanding. You are going to have one sweet Cloud by the time you are done.

Look forward to pictures with those B'moons on the trailer.

Barry

urbanfood 08-23-2007 07:22 PM

barry, you didn't know that????

in the States, we celebrate christmas twice a year!

safari57 08-23-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by urbanfood
barry, you didn't know that????

in the States, we celebrate Christmas twice a year!

Okay, that's it, I'm moving South!!!

No wonder Moderator Mel can have two, count 'em, two Airstreams at Deming at the same time two years in a row.

Christmas twice a year - my favorite holiday. And one of them we won't be fending off huge rain either.

Thanks for the tip, David.

Barry

urbanfood 10-03-2007 09:37 PM

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hot off the press!

greg over at inland rv sent me these two pics today. we're still waiting for the axle to arrive, but you can see the new coupler, jack stand, and box for the disc brake system (temporarily mounted so i can drive the trailer home).

greg also removed the leaf springs and mounted the plates to accept the new axle. notice those red boxes, they hold the kodiak disc brakes. can't wait to try them out.

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SteSpot 12-01-2007 12:56 PM

Any updates?
 
Wondering what is happening now.....pj

urbanfood 12-02-2007 05:16 PM

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finally progress again...

i picked up the trailer from inland rv on thursday. i also had greg install a spare tire carrier which is what is on the newer airstreams. it fits perfect in the space. i wasn't smart enough to ordered three tires when i order my new marathons. now i have to order a spare tire and wheel.

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also, i've been contemplating tank sizes for almost a year now and i've finally decided on the sizes. i'm happy to report i'm going much bigger than originally planned. my tank sizes are as follows'

fresh 44 gallons
grey 33 gallons
black 22 gallons

i built mock up cardboard sizes today and they fit great. i've attached pictures;

fresh Attachment 50270 fresh Attachment 50271
fresh hangs down almost as far as the spare tire carrier, it should be fine.

grey (left) black (right)
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waste tanks curbside view
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outlets will work great black is in the foreground, you can see the circles for the outlets
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notice the gray will be flush with the floor and the black is under the cross member. my only concern is the 27" of width of the gray with no support in between for floor. it's location is mostly under the bed so i don't think it'll be a problem. i'm going to order the tanks tomorrow and also the por 15. i need to get some steel, get it cut, then have the welder come over. i haven't completely figured out the best way to support the tanks.

one small snag on the wheel wells. you can see from the pix that the new shock sticks just above the top of the frame. i've looked at this and don't see how the shock could be lowered. i'm going to give greg a call tomorrow but i don't think there's anything he'd be able to do. i could just ditch the shocks but i do like the idea of having them. i think i need to simply make a wider wheel well as they need to be remade anyway.
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safari57 12-02-2007 07:01 PM

David

Great progress. You will appreciate the larger tank capacities. Great idea on the spare - once I get my trailer up another couple of inches I will reconsider putting the spare underneath as you have done.

One thing - I see you must have cut and paste these pictures to eliminate any signs of snow. Good work. Makes those of us who are experiencing early Christmas like weather wish we were living elsewhere.

Barry

urbanfood 12-10-2007 12:06 PM

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here's my new floor plan. i now will have a wrap around dinette (after seeing forum member creampuff's). i've slid the bathroom towards the front a touch so it align with the wheelwell and also i can use the opening for the old exhaust fan where the stove used to be and have an exhaust fan in the bathroom. this freed up 2' wide of space between the bed and bathroom. i could use it for a desk which i'd really like for laptop/printer, or maybe some sort of storage. any ideas?

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also here is the new framing plan. i'm going to have two 21 gallon freshwater tanks which will allow the tanks not to hang down as much. you can see that the tanks are on either side of the axle, i think it's good distribution. i need to find a good welder.

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and finally, here's the bathroom section. i've been struggling with this one for awhile and finally have a solution for the wet bath. i'm buying the shower pan/toilet combo as one piece and i need to raise it up 4" or so to allow for the shower to drain to the grey tank, above floor of course. this makes me very happy as now i can order the tanks, toilet, and shower pan.

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as an architect, i tend to think too much on paper, but i must say the design of this has been more difficult than a house in some ways, mainly you don't have any extra room and there's a lot of function to fit in such a small space. things are so tight, it's hard to know what you have until you physically have the pieces.

Aerowood 12-10-2007 12:28 PM

I don't see a black tank vent, or is it on another view? I am planning on raising my shower pan too, but I was only thinking around 2 inches. I also plan on running a heater duct in part of the raised space to feed warm air into the freshwater and graywater tank cavities.

urbanfood 12-10-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerowood
I am planning on raising my shower pan too, but I was only thinking around 2 inches.

will you have enough clearance for the drain to slope to the gray tank?

the black vent ties with the gray, about 1' above the floor. i can see on the drawing a piece that wasn't colored gray that should have been to indicate the vent going down to the black tank.

i haven't decided if i'm going to heat the tanks or not yet. my inclination was originally no, but now that i have that raised shower pan, it's easy enough to do it. i'll ponder that one for a bit.

Aerowood 12-10-2007 01:51 PM

I was thinking about slotting the floorboard with a doubler under the slot, and with a 1.5 inch drain I should get around 3/4 to 1 in. of slope. You know how the best laid plan works out though. I most likely will figure it out on install. I'm currently at a stall until some snow goes away. I really shouldn't have started on that 11 foot long skin replace.

fastrob 12-10-2007 02:01 PM

Sweet!!
 
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Originally Posted by urbanfood

and finally, here's the bathroom section. i've been struggling with this one for awhile and finally have a solution for the wet bath. i'm buying the shower pan/toilet combo as one piece and i need to raise it up 4" or so to allow for the shower to drain to the grey tank, above floor of course. this makes me very happy as now i can order the tanks, toilet, and shower pan.
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Who is the supplier for the shower pan/toilet combo?
Nice graphics.
Good plan.

R

3Ms75Argosy 12-10-2007 02:39 PM

As an aside, I know Airstream used to use a very flat (it basically turns 90 degrees, instead of the loop down) p-trap for under the showers, you wouldn't need to drill into your floorplan with that. I have seen a simular animal for the sink in the basecamp, but it drains into a 1/2" flex pipe barb... I think you would need a bigger diameter for the shower water volume.
Marc


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