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CanoeStream 02-12-2006 07:48 PM

Proposing a 19' Bambi floorplan -- sideways bed
 
We were at the Mpls RV & Camping show this weekend with friends who would be very interested Airstream purchasers. With just one of us laying in the rear corner bed, we (and I again) couldn't imagine any partner over 5' 2" tall laying up against the wall in a 19' Bambi. This is a big problem in my opinion.

How much interest would there be in a 19' Bambi with a side-to-side bed in the rear similar to the layout in the 16-footer? There is great storage through an over-bumper hatch to the underbed space with the 16-footer. Whether with the 6-sleeper layout or the 19' Bambi, I have a perceptual problem sleeping right next to the commode. For the few that truly boondock I don't think many of us camp far away from some resources that allow toilet & bathing facilities within the campground. I have managed a full wash in swim trunks and an outside shower wand (like the one I have on my 25' FB SE or is commonly available on Fleetwood/old Coleman popups). So why shouldn't Airstream consider a 19' Bambi with a wet bath forward like the 16' and a side-to-side rear bed for real space for couples?

Thoughts anyone?? Go watch 'Desperate Housewives' y'all and give me some feedback as you can...

lewster 02-12-2006 08:15 PM

Bob,

I'm with ya on some points as I have good friends with a 16 and I have a 19. There are several reasons why I bought the 19 as is. Separate black and grey tanks, twin batteries, bigger fridge, and full shower. As I use this item much more than the bed, I put a greater emphasis on the amenities other than the sleeping position. They don't care for the bed arrangement in the 16 either. You could always remove the dinette and add a goucho sort of pull-out. All-in-all, great little trailer!!!

Silvertwinkie 02-12-2006 08:25 PM

I think the coaches are built to fit certain markets. Being 5'7", I had no issues with the rear bed on our 19' Bambi and no issues with the wider bed in the 25' SS which is the same rear bed/bath as the Bambi.

Even with some of the comments about the bath being too small and the bed not easy to get in and out of, I figure, I'm not fulltiming, I'm camping and suppose I'll just have to rough it in an Airstream! :) :lol: :D :brows:

If the day comes where we fulltime or need more space, I could see the 31 being a nice upgrade path....maybe even a 34' if we have a bunch of kids. :)

indefatigabl 02-12-2006 09:15 PM

I was at the Mpls RV & Camping show this weekend too. I have to say, I was quite impressed by the layout of the Quicksilver Bambi. It seemed to me that they were able to fit in a lot more in a lot less space.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Canoe stream
We were at the Mpls RV & Camping show this weekend...How much interest would there be in a 19' Bambi with a side-to-side bed in the rear similar to the layout in the 16-footer?...


CanoeStream 02-12-2006 09:20 PM

Refining the purpose
 
Ease of bed ingress or egress is not as important as basic space for the two people involved. No, I don't really believe the 16' bed access is easy -- but the 16-footer also has no more floor space than these folks' 7-8 year old "large" Coleman popup. In the meantime the 19-footer has difficult sleeping space for my 5'11" friend and his 5'7" wife. That's a non-starter from the word "Go." I wish to stimulate discussion for future models. You'd better believe it (or at least I hope that..) Airstream pays attention to this discussion area!

Bathroom capacity or convenience is not the reason these units exist -- so the 16-footer's bathroom isn't out of line for a larger trailer. We are talking a trailer with tank capacities that allow 2-3 nights tops before heading for the dump station and moving on. Mobility is also what matters to me. With my 25' FB I am not about to park for a winter or rent for a summer season. Mobility is the world in which Airstreams began and a pursuit that Airstream should probably consider in the 16-19' area IMHO.

A traditional Bambi is still pricey for starting RV-ers but is accessible for well-to-do younger couples or small families that can consider mid-SUVs or sub-3/4-ton trucks. I believe the future may trend toward less demanding tows (read the Winter '06 Airstream Life's "A Proper British Airstream" for potential weight saving developments in smaller units coming down the pike!).

bradk 02-15-2006 10:41 PM

just ordered a 19' ccd bambi
 
We were in a situation where we could "theoretically" tow a 22' with my Nissan Pathfinder but I do not want to sacrifice safety and comfort in towing a trailer for an extra 3 feet. The 19' is small, the sleeping compartment is small but that said, the living space is more functional than the 16'. The bathroom was one of the things that sold us on it. I have 0 interest in showering while sitting on the toilet.

I also found that the sleeping compartment in the 19' is more functional that the 16'.

This trailer in and it's length makes perfect sense for the weekend camper and young active couples that don't plan on spending a pile of time inside of it. Also, much easier to tow for standard vehicles. These features and those listed above (seperate b/g tanks etc) fit us perfectly.

We're very excited to enjoy the cramped space of ours.

cheers,
brad.

rseagle 02-16-2006 03:48 AM

I have always wanted to see a 19' Bambi with a wet bath configuration. Sorta like a stretch 16'. The rear bed could go from 48" to 54" or even 56". Even more wardrobe space and kitchen counter tops and full oven. Perhaps, even a bigger fridge. Think out of the box, Airstream.

SilverRanger 02-16-2006 05:43 AM

A matter of personal preference...
 
I guess it would be great if Airstream was able to let the customer custom design their trailers, but that's not likely. We really had our eye on the 22 footers, but didn't like the wet bath, and found the sleeping compartment in the Bambi perfectly adequate for us. The separate tanks were a bonus, and the dinette folds down into a bed and is a very comfortable alternative as well. A friend of ours had the leather gaucho installed in his Bambi instead of the dinette, and it looks great and really works well for him.

Mike Lewis 02-16-2006 09:54 AM

We had an 04'/16' Bambie and have since traded up twice. Here's our take on our Bambie:-Length of bed is great but width is not ,even though wife and I are average size folks. Sleeping close is not the problem, but the mattress material is such that 2 people that close makes for one big "sink hole" in the middle where the 2 of us found the foam compressed down to the plywood base. From then on throuh the night we would be "rolled together" in this hole. The other thing about the bed is the difficulty with making the bed up every morning and changing bedding. This became a 2 person job. We thought that because we spent such a small part of the day in bed that the draw backs there would not be a factor. For us the did,especially in bad weather when even more time was spent indoors..A salesman told us something that over the years we've found to be true . It's highly unlikely you will ever find a a coach that is exactly what you want. If you're looking to buy and find on that fits your needs with 75 percent of it's features you'd better buy it.----Pieman

Karyn 02-16-2006 01:00 PM

Side to side bed in larger single axle- it's here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Canoe stream
We were at the Mpls RV & Camping show this weekend with friends who would be very interested Airstream purchasers. With just one of us laying in the rear corner bed, we (and I again) couldn't imagine any partner over 5' 2" tall laying up against the wall in a 19' Bambi. This is a big problem in my opinion.

How much interest would there be in a 19' Bambi with a side-to-side bed in the rear similar to the layout in the 16-footer? There is great storage through an over-bumper hatch to the underbed space with the 16-footer. Whether with the 6-sleeper layout or the 19' Bambi, I have a perceptual problem sleeping right next to the commode. For the few that truly boondock I don't think many of us camp far away from some resources that allow toilet & bathing facilities within the campground. I have managed a full wash in swim trunks and an outside shower wand (like the one I have on my 25' FB SE or is commonly available on Fleetwood/old Coleman popups). So why shouldn't Airstream consider a 19' Bambi with a wet bath forward like the 16' and a side-to-side rear bed for real space for couples?

Thoughts anyone?? Go watch 'Desperate Housewives' y'all and give me some feedback as you can...

Airstream is doing it! It's to be a 20' single axle, bed across one end, dry bath and larger kitchen area with double sinks.

We are expecting ours in late March/early April.
http://airstreamofspokane.com/office...FLOORPLAN3.jpg

dieterdog 02-16-2006 02:49 PM

Hi Karyn,,, am looking forward to pictures of this new stream. as an owner of a 16 foot bambi ccd,,, think this new one will be great,,,, donna

Karyn 02-16-2006 07:35 PM

New 20'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dieterdog
Hi Karyn,,, am looking forward to pictures of this new stream. as an owner of a 16 foot bambi ccd,,, think this new one will be great,,,, donna

I think you are right Donna, with a 5000 lb GVWR it will be a great size.

I see you have added a new Airstream to your family...Congratulations! http://www.airforums.com/forum...ons/icon14.gif
Going to make some of those longer club trips this year??

Have fun,
Karyn

LuminumTraila 02-17-2006 07:04 PM

Karyn -- You don't happen to have a copy of that floorplan do you? I'd love to see the layout, or any pics you have.

-Jamie

Stefrobrts 02-17-2006 07:39 PM

I don't know why I bother going to AS corporate, all the good news shows up here first! So, has anyone got any links to info about the 20ft model?

lewster 02-17-2006 07:55 PM

WOW!

This new 20' is just what I was looking for........too bad it's 7 months too late. I love my 19CCD and hope they carry over the new 20' floor plan to the CCD line in a year or so. I should be ready to 'trade up' by then:lol: .

Tim A. 02-17-2006 08:36 PM

We Like the Floorplan
 
For those who think the 19' Bambi bed is too short, I am still over 6' (but shrinking each year!) and sleep on the wall side of that bed. Yes, I can touch both ends if I try, but who tries while sleeping. My wife and I both love the generous shower and a toilet which remains dry while showering. We are not full timers, but at least one trip each year is at least 4 weeks long. Two people and a large dog co-exist easily in what we view as an amazingly functional floorplan.

bradk 02-17-2006 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim A.
For those who think the 19' Bambi bed is too short, I am still over 6' (but shrinking each year!) and sleep on the wall side of that bed. Yes, I can touch both ends if I try, but who tries while sleeping. My wife and I both love the generous shower and a toilet which remains dry while showering. We are not full timers, but at least one trip each year is at least 4 weeks long. Two people and a large dog co-exist easily in what we view as an amazingly functional floorplan.

Glad to hear, we just ordered a 19' CCD Bambi for the two of us and our dog "spokes". We ordered the overhead bunk option to accomodate any potential kid down the road. We were a little bit concerned about the size of the bed .

I agree on the floorplan, we found it was the perfect space for the three of us.


Cheers,
brad. (anxiously awaiting our silver twinkie)

LuminumTraila 02-18-2006 06:58 AM

I read on the forums at Airstream.com that this new 20' will have the narrower dinette of the CCD 22'. That would be too small for us since we need that as a bed for two small kids. So while you gain a larger bed with the 20', apparently you lose in the second bed.

bradk -- let us know how you like the bunk. When will you be getting your Bambi?

-Jamie

bradk 02-18-2006 08:56 AM

good queston...
 
We bought from Bretz RV in Missoula, they have my 5 large but I haven't had confirmation that the order has been placed as yet. I'll hopefully get some answers next week.

We're expecting to see it around the beginning of April. The wait is already killing me and it's only been a week :D.

b.

CanoeStream 02-18-2006 12:27 PM

20-footer Floorplan
 
Jamie, thanks for the reference to Airstream.com's forums. There's a fair description there. It seems like some folks have gotten brochures easily enough.

Am I wrong (frequently if you ask my dogs)? But was there once a floorplan image posted early on in this thread?? It bore some resemblance to the 22' Safari that came out the same time as the 22' CCD and was subsequently discontinued. If anybody has a scanner and a copy of the brochure it would be nice to see ... :flowers:. Thank you!


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