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C Johnson 02-11-2006 11:51 PM

On the fence
 
I just finished looking over three pages of WBCCI threads and one thought came to mind.

Who here is on the fence about joining the WBCCI and why ?

I am most interested in the why part. This includes current members who might not want to re-up. Please chime in.

I am interested in hearing your answers.

I have my own opinion about the subject but, I want to hear the views of others.

Chris

dwightdi 02-12-2006 03:57 AM

Reasons to join
 
Join if: you have the time to use the benifits the club offers.(Rallies, Caravans, contacts) Joint if: the local unit population matches your own age group and what you want to do. Join if: you like social interaction. Join if your wife is of like mind.

Do not join: if you really do not use your Airstream very much. Do not join: if the people in your local unit are not friendly or are inactive and just sit around and eat. Don't join if: you are an just an observer and want everything done for you. Don't join if: You will be the only family in the group within 20 years of your age.

Stefrobrts 02-12-2006 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dwightdi
Join if: the local unit population matches your own age group and what you want to do.

The Oregon Unit would love to have you onboard, Chris. Right now the unit's age demographic is skewing a little on the well-past-retirement side. But they're a friendly bunch, and all eager to see young folks get involved and change things for the better (by young I mean anyone from retirement age or younger). Frankly, they've been running the club for years, many of them are getting to the age where health is keeping them from travelling as much, or they're just burnt out. I think all the active members have already been president, and they don't want to do it again - but they will if they have to. I've never seen such a devoted group of people. They've spent their whole life in the club, and they love it and the fellowship they've enjoyed in it. They all seem to be willing to do whatever it takes to keep it going.

I'm in the club, Janet's in the club, and OreExcella. There's several other retirement age or close to it clouples. If we can get you and campcollector on board, hopefully we can start organizing more youth oriented activities and bring the other folks on board who only show up for forum rallys now. The existing group has already made the effort to plan almost all the rallys this year at state parks (no parking-lot campgrounds), because that's what the younger people in the club asked for.

I think we're at a turning point. Either we're going to get more people our age involved, or the unit will slowly dissolve. It's the same battle they're having all over the country. A few units have really turned it around - NV, CO, TX, New England, SC, WA-DC, and a few others I'm missing. They've figured out the right combinations to invigorate their units and bring people together to camp and have fun. That's all it's really all about.

So feel free to speak up and let us know what you're thinking. If there's problems, the unit wants to know about it, and I'll be glad to pass it along to them. This is stuff they need to know. Why aren't people joining? Is there anything the unit can do better to make it more attractive?

A lot of people say they don't have time to get involved and work to help change an existing unit. I'm willing to do that. So, let me know what's on your mind.

OreExcella 02-12-2006 11:21 AM

Well said Stephanie!

jim

Janet H 02-12-2006 11:51 AM

Soap box on:

Is the OR Unit of the WBCCI for you? Don't know - maybe not... It is populated by retirees but.. they are a forward looking bunch and trying to make changes to attract a younger crowd. Here's the rub: they don't really know how to do that. They need input from that younger crowd and have actively solicited it. But... they are much more inclined to listen to those who have demonstrated real interest in the WBCCI - BY JOINING! Meet them halfway.

The only truly effective way to find and add value to an organization is from within. Join - you will become an organization leader in a few years - and then someone younger will be asking the same questions you are asking now. Remember that when you are in charge; change comes hard.

Other reasons to join:
1. I did.
2. Stef did.
2.5 OreExcella did.
3. We could stage a coup!
4. If the OR unit dies, we will have to start a new .org. Too much work! They already did it - let's just massage it a little.
5. If the WBCCI dies - what the heck would we rant about on the forums?
6. I'm performing at the Pendleton round-up rally! Members only - free!
7. If you join, Stef will send you a nifty newsletter!
8. The people are cool - even the old-timers. Their expectations are a little different, but they are still cool. I'd be happy to be camping at 85 and so are they.
9. The guy who designed your trailer started the club! - join!

Soap box off.

Andrew Selking 02-12-2006 12:41 PM

Stephanie and Janet,

I love both of your ideas about the club. If more people would take the bull by the horns as you two have WBCCI or AOAI would grow and things would change. I know change is hard but if we follow in your footsteps good things will happen . Just my thoughts.

streamer23 02-12-2006 01:13 PM

Stefanie and Janet,

I believe what you are trying to do with the Oregon Unit is the future of the club if it is to survive.It is very important that some of the longer term members of your unit are open to new ideas.I feel the forward thinking units are the ones that will survive and help rebuild the club going forward.

wheel interested 02-12-2006 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C Johnson
Who here is on the fence about joining the WBCCI and why ?

I am most interested in the why part. This includes current members who might not want to re-up. Please chime in.

Chris

I wonder too at Chris' question and inquiry.

Uberlanders 02-12-2006 03:44 PM

If you are on the fence because of all the negative talk ie. too old and don't understand younger airstreamers, anti-vintage, kids, pets, etc......your club will be what you make it. You are lucky to live so close to the Oregon Unit. From everything we hear, and those that were at Newport, seem like great people. They want to change in order to survive. The club will be what you make it.

Three cheers for the New England Unit which are a group of fun loving rebels ready to camp/party at the drop of the hat. Kids, pets, vintage trailers, motorbikes, etc...all are welcome. A great deal of them are also on this forum.

Can't wait to camp with them this summer.

Kathleen

47WeeWind 02-12-2006 04:56 PM

Long off the fence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C Johnson
Who here is on the fence about joining the WBCCI and why? I am most interested in the why part. This includes current members who might not want to re-up. Please chime in. Chris

Hi Chris:

I fell off the fence into Wallyland in 1999 after buying my first Airstream and have not considered climbing back onto it. I have re-upped my WBCCI memberships every year since. The chiming reasons why include meeting Airstreams buddies and friends throughout the year to socialize, sip beer, talk trailer, go camping and get outdoors. My Denver Unit, WBCCI & VAC memberships are worth far more to me than the small annual dues. Joining has put me in touch and placed me face-to-face with far more Airstreamers than I ever would have met or found on my own through the Forums or otherwise. Through involvement over time, a foreign concept to please-me-now self-absorbed individuals, many like minded Denver Unit members have created and run WBCCI and VAC events to our liking, which in turn have attracted even more other like-minded fun lovers. Sure it takes work and effort, but the rewards are manifold.

If you are looking for negative answers, you'll find plenty of them if that's your focus. But don't let all the cyber griping keep you from trying the WBCCI for a year or two, especially with the good head start of an active local unit in Oregon. It may, or may not, turn out to be your cup of tea, but at least sip the experience. That's my two rivets. ;)

Buttercup 02-12-2006 05:06 PM

Quote:

a foreign concept to please-me-now self-absorbed individuals,
Fred, I wonder if you could be more specific at to whom you are referring by this statement? Or explain it better... It surely seems that it could be interpreted as an incredabily inflamitory statement. and certainly not one that is deserved in this thread or on these forums...

2airishuman 02-12-2006 05:34 PM

how about quoting the full sentence....
so as to include the context?
it's pretty obvious; the meaning is clear..

"Through involvement over time, a foreign concept to please-me-now self-absorbed individuals, many like minded Denver Unit members have created and run WBCCI and VAC events to our liking, which in turn have attracted even more other like-minded fun lovers. Sure it takes work and effort, but the rewards are manifold. "


clubs can provide what the members want....
if the members want to work from within the club.....


c johnson......

tried to join wb at age 25....but my new a/c moho wasn't allowed in yet.....

25+ years later....that's all changed....

i'm a member at large now and have zero need for the local group...
which needs lots of help, as many do....

just join.....
try some local events...
and try some events while traveling near the "cool" local units...

i have met folks who joined just to go on ONE caravan.....
others to gain access to the emergency med services while traveling...
others who wanted to attend the international rally.
others because their new airstream friends were in the club...
others to get more info on the a/s parks and co-ops.

and others still,
who join....
looking to be entertained....
who aren't.....
who quit.

try a year, local or at large, check it out from inside and decide.

cheers
2air'

47WeeWind 02-12-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buttercup
Fred, I wonder if you could be more specific at to whom you are referring by this statement? Or explain it better... It surely seems that it could be interpreted as an incredabily inflamitory statement. and certainly not one that is deserved in this thread or on these forums...

You can lower you hand, Buttercup, I did not have you in mind. :rolleyes: I was referring generally to those other people who believe the WBCCI, and probably the world, why not??, should be designed to serve and suit their unarticulated personal desires and whims without any effort or involvement whatsoever on their part. I consider that attitude a sign of please-me-now self-absorbment and my description of such an attitude to be factual. If you find it inflamatory, then that's your interpretation to which you are entitled: who am I to argue? I did not intend it to be inflamatory, only descriptive of my opinion of some people who diss the WBCCI for not effortlessly giving them what they want. I am not trying to start an argument, only warn Chris to be aware of an underlying life attitude of some of those who complain loudest about the WBCCI's alleged lameness, not about its prospective new name, which is not the topic of this thread. :rolleyes: Now, back to that fence ....

Buttercup 02-12-2006 06:33 PM

Peace
 
my hand was up in a peace sign, I agree that it takes work (and that's why my wife and I are getting involved and helping to create programs for the members of our unit to enjoy). :flowers:



Quote:

Originally Posted by 47WeeWind
You can lower you hand, Buttercup, I did not have you in mind. :rolleyes: I was referring generally to those other people who believe the WBCCI, and probably the world, why not??, should be designed to serve and suit their unarticulated personal desires and whims without any effort or involvement whatsoever on their part. I consider that attitude a sign of please-me-now self-absorbment and my description of such an attitude to be factual. If you find it inflamatory, then that's your interpretation to which you are entitled: who am I to argue? I did not intend it to be inflamatory, only descriptive of my opinion of some people who diss the WBCCI for not effortlessly giving them what they want. I am not trying to start an argument, only warn Chris to be aware of an underlying life attitude of some of those who complain loudest about the WBCCI's alleged lameness, not about its prospective new name, which is not the topic of this thread. :rolleyes: Now, back to that fence ....



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