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Greatlaker 03-10-2019 08:32 AM

2020 Model Changes
 
Anyone have any info on what changes might occur to the A/S model line-up for 2020?

A replacement for the Tommy B might be due? If so, hopefully something a little less "beachy" and a little more "woodsy" will be targeted! It would also be nice if twin beds were an option on a TB replacement!

Would be cool to see the U-lounge from the 26, get utilized in more models. If not that, simply a more comfortable lounge!

Also seems the Flying cloud and International interiors are getting a little aged at this point.

I read somewhere that the new Globetrotter scheme is expected to replace the current Flying Cloud line-up, but haven't heard much else.

I wonder if the rear hatch will get utilized going forward?

What would you like to see?

StreamingEagle 03-10-2019 10:45 AM

Not that I'm buying anything new anytime soon (since I just got my 2019), but I would like to see Airstream offer some more /optional/ items. I was a bit frustrated that I was forced into the power awnings and rear camera on mine since they made them standard for the 2019.

It would also be nice to be able to just eliminate certain features, but I understand the need for standardization for the production lines to be consistent.

NoResults 03-10-2019 10:50 AM

I was happy to get the power awning and rear view camera as I had to add the camera myself and the manual awning was a pain in the rear (mine)


Dave

Rocinante 03-10-2019 12:06 PM

Not buying a new RV anytime soon. Getting the last one right via 2 years of warranty service was way too much like work.

Gondul 03-21-2019 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatlaker (Post 2218346)
Also seems the Flying cloud and International interiors are getting a little aged at this point.

My 2 cents...

Not a fan of the Flying Cloud interior, maybe it is the aircraft style overheads.

I like the International interiors very clean, simple, and modern looking. This is the one we are looking at very hard.

I find the Classic to be very dated...it doesn't have to have a 1960's interior to be 'Classic'.

The Globetrotter tries too hard to look European, having been overseas to looks to me what most Americans think European looks/functions.

Gondul 03-21-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StreamingEagle (Post 2218407)
Not that I'm buying anything new anytime soon (since I just got my 2019), but I would like to see Airstream offer some more /optional/ items. I was a bit frustrated that I was forced into the power awnings and rear camera on mine since they made them standard for the 2019.

It would also be nice to be able to just eliminate certain features, but I understand the need for standardization for the production lines to be consistent.

We are still researching, but looking hard at an International... not a fan of the powered awning, from the videos I've seen, slow and loud.

Rocinante 03-21-2019 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondul (Post 2222694)
We are still researching, but looking hard at an International... not a fan of the powered awning, from the videos I've seen, slow and loud.


Yup, and expensive when it breaks!

JFScheck 03-24-2019 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gondul (Post 2222694)
not a fan of the powered awning, from the videos I've seen, slow and loud.

Trust me, Power awnings and auto stabilizers are a god send, take it from someone who has owned 3 Airstreams... 😜

rmkrum 03-24-2019 12:45 AM

2020 Model Changes
 
Personally, as a seriously old guy who makes a darn good living using all kinds of technology and automation in my career, Iíd rather minimize the amount of high-tech stuff I have to deal with in my Airstream. I may be the ďworlds oldest computer geekĒ according to my family, but I donít have to geek out to go camping.

A common electrical switch has a lot fewer failure modes that an automated awning (which I am darn glad I DONíT have) and fancy control systems that mess up when my battery voltage happens to take a dive in the middle of the night.

Stuff that requires computer software, sequencers, and complicated automation beyond flipping a switch from off to on also requires complicated troubleshooting and eats expensive parts. I love Overkill Engineering a lot, but I also keep the hand crank handy...and it had best work when i need it. Even my power WD tensioning system has a hand crank just in case it blows a fuse.

So far, the automated power awning, IMHO, is not quite ready for prime time. Power stabilizers might be, but let the record show mine still get cranked down one at a time by hand. And my air conditioner has knobs that work just fine, and the propane heater has a simple thermostat that does not require a bunch of fiddling to program it.

Basic functions, like turning lights on and off, should be basic, easy and obvious. I donít need Czone or whatever to stand between me or my DW turning on some light or appliance, either.

And no, Iím not going to give up my computer or cell phone either. But the difference is that in my Airstream, I donít need complicated interfaces, computers, or the like to flush the toilet, heat water, or control the television set. Iím out there to go camping, not use all my technology skills when I donít really need or want to.

And no, Iím not giving up my high-tech card or man card. I can split wood efficiently and gracefully with a double-bitted axe and start a nice campfire with wooden strike-anywhere matches and a bit of kindling just fine.

JFScheck 03-24-2019 03:09 AM

The new CAN bus weighs 300lbs less in wiring while eaiser to troubleshoot & maintain. It’s a welcome advancement in my opinion, but again, what works for one may not be for another. ;-)

JFScheck 03-24-2019 03:11 AM

Looking at old pictures of my Classic, the new Classic looks a bit more worthy of its price tag. ��

jeffmc306 03-30-2019 04:17 PM

Discovered a new 23' Globetrotter FBT video
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatlaker (Post 2218346)
Anyone have any info on what changes might occur to the A/S model line-up for 2020?

A replacement for the Tommy B might be due? If so, hopefully something a little less "beachy" and a little more "woodsy" will be targeted! It would also be nice if twin beds were an option on a TB replacement!

Would be cool to see the U-lounge from the 26, get utilized in more models. If not that, simply a more comfortable lounge!

Also seems the Flying cloud and International interiors are getting a little aged at this point.

I read somewhere that the new Globetrotter scheme is expected to replace the current Flying Cloud line-up, but haven't heard much else.

I wonder if the rear hatch will get utilized going forward?

What would you like to see?

Hi Greatlaker - I posted this on the Globetrotter thread but it fits here as well...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f543...bt-193793.html

While watching a YouTube video from "Big Truck, Big RV" he was at the Salt Lake City RV show and walked through a new Airstream that I recognized as a 23' floor plan (we had a FC23FB) - but this one had the Globetrotter interior and twin beds!

My guess this will be added as a new 2020 Globetrotter. Check it out...

DPRoberts 03-30-2019 07:08 PM

I saw that video too! It makes me wonder if Airstream is going to offer twin beds in the other 23FB models...

EDIT: I asked Patrick from Colonial about this model, & he said "That was a protoype model No announcements have been made."

uncle_bob 04-29-2019 07:10 AM

Hi

They have the new factory coming on line later this year. Moving everything into it is going to be a massive lot of work. Since everything gets moved as part of this, the whole product line will be affected. I'm not sure that making a lot of changes on top of that move would be a good idea.

That said, yes, I have a Classic. I love using it. It's a great trailer for us. I would never in 100 years pick this interior over something more Euro / modernl. Solid build approach - sure, that's good. Style ... not so much. Yes, I've had the same problem each time we go shopping for a new house.

Once the factory size effectively triples, I would think there will be some significant changes in the lineup. Again, that's likely next year, but ... maybe not. What would I like to see:

1) Bring back the three axle "big boys". You now have the space to build them again. With people full timing in these trailers, there *is* a market for "bigger". What if you actually have a family with "full sized" kids ?

2) Put the power chairs / sofa / decent seating in something smaller than the 30'. Call it whatever you like. Give people a comfortable place to relax.

3) Dump the dinette and replace it with a desk in something in the 27' vicinity. This seems to be the most common mod I see people doing. It makes a lot of sense in the modern world. Offer it as a factory option.

4) Do at least one model that has a real storage locker. There are people who have outdoor hobbies. A lot of them involve hauling "stuff" along. Saying that you pack it all in the tow is not a great answer.

There are a long list of fiddly little changes I would make. They really are not a "new model" sort of thing.

Bob


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