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nedmoto 09-25-2018 08:17 AM

F150 Equalizer Set Up
 
I finally got around to a CAT Scale this last weekend. I set up my Equalizer hitch earlier using the measuring of the wheel well instructions and I thought I was pretty close. I have 1000lb bars and use a AirSafe hitch.

I have a 2018 F150-Payload of 1550-Truck GVWR 7050-Front GAWR 3750-Rear GAWR 4050. I pull a 2017 25" Airstream with a base weight of 5503 and a max weight of 7300

My CAT scale ticked showed Steer Axle 3060-Drive Axel 4150-Trailer Axel 5540-Gross Weight 12740.

Since I'm a newbie, is this set-up ok.

MWBishop 09-25-2018 09:24 AM

Not an expert here and others will certainly chime in.

1. Impossible to answer your question without truck-only CAT scale weights.
This will indicate how much weight is being distributed back to steer axle.

2. From what you provided, am I wrong here or is your Drive Axle now 4150 over your GAWR?

nedmoto 09-25-2018 09:50 AM

Thanks for the reply.

I'll try to weigh the truck alone this weekend. I thought the front and rear GAWR from the sticker told the story. Also there is noticeable slight sag at the rear of the truck.

MWBishop 09-25-2018 09:53 AM

Nope. Those are only gross or max weights. Got to weight her to know actual numbers.

AShar 09-26-2018 10:02 AM

Axle__________Truck Ratings__________CAT Scale
Front/Steer____ 3750 lbs______________ 3060 lbs
Rear__________ 4050 lbs______________ 4150 lbs
GVWR_________ 7050 lbs______________ 7210 lbs (Front+Rear)


Looks like you are exceeding your Rear Axle rating and GVWR. Looks like your WD hitch needs to be adjusted to distribute some weight to front axle and some to the trailer axles. In Equalizer hitch this can be achieved by adding more washers and/or adjusting L-brackets.

GammaDog 09-26-2018 12:07 PM

AShar has it right. You are over on the gross vehicle weight and rear axle weight limits as measured based on the data you have provided. You didn't mention a tongue weight rating for your truck. That's one worth looking at, too.

I'm not familiar with, nor have I ever seen an AirSafe product used in combination with an Equal-i-zer. You mention both brands (Equal-i-zer is a brand) in your post. The AirSoft web page talks about their "Receiver" product having anti-sway properties. I don't see any mention of weight distribution. Tell us more about the hitch you are using and that will help people with knowledge share insight with you. I use an Equal-I-zer.

Either way, you actually need three passes over the scales to see what your hitch is doing in the weight distribution function. For all three, the truck and trailer need to be loaded ready for travel. That includes a full tank of gas, all passengers (or weight to simulate them), all gear you would travel with in both the truck and trailer (generators, bikes, food, clothing, etc), fresh water as you would load for a trip, etc.. The three passes are: truck alone; truck with trailer hitched but weight distribution deactivated; truck with trailer hitched and weight distribution activated. The first pass will give you two weights ("steer" and "drive"). The others will give you those two plus "trailer". The trailer axles are assumed to carry equal shares of the trailer load if the trailer is level, which it should be.

Post back when you have that data. The community is very knowledgeable and helpful when fed specifics.

MAHofer 09-26-2018 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=GammaDog;2161361]AShar has it right. You are over on the gross vehicle weight and rear axle weight limits as measured based on the data you have provided. You didn't mention a tongue weight rating for your truck. That's one worth looking at, too.

I'm not familiar with, nor have I ever seen an AirSafe product used in combination with an Equal-i-zer. You mention both brands (Equal-i-zer is a brand) in your post. The AirSoft web page talks about their "Receiver" product having anti-sway properties. I don't see any mention of weight distribution. Tell us more about the hitch you are using and that will help people with knowledge share insight with you. I use an Equal-I-zer.

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Agree on the above two weight analysis that you are exceeding vehicle capacities

I too use a Equalizer and am interested in the AirSafe but can find info on how the two can be attached to work together. How do you do it? Can you post some pictures?

Asherstanton 09-26-2018 04:08 PM

I don’t know enough about the AirSafe to comment on that. However I am pulling about 6500 lbs with an F150 and an Equalizer hitch. the first thing I noticed was the sag (and the porpoising over roller coaster sections of road). Probably a combo of inexperience and not setting up the Equalizer as well as I could have. I put in Bilstein shocks and adjusted the Equalizer much better. No more sag and and less stiffness in the hitch settings to achieve level. A slightly stiffer ride when not towing but well worth it.

Excella1991 09-26-2018 04:20 PM

AirSafe with Equalizer
 
Have an AirSafe with y Equalizer. The Equalizer head bolts directly to the AirSafe. The AirSafe has a stinger with goes into the receiver. Its a very easy installation.

nedmoto 09-26-2018 07:51 PM

Thanks for all the replies--

Sorry this puzzle is coming in pieces. Ill try to get back to the scales by this weekend for the weigh in with the Equalizer unconnected.. I did have a run by the Cat scales tonight on my home from work with just the F150 and I was steer axel-3180 lbs , drive axel 2760 lbs and gross weight 5940. That was with the AirSafe still on.

To reprise my with my Equalizer connected to the AS my CAT scale ticked showed steer axle 3060-drive axel 4150-trailer axel 5540-gross weight 12740.

From the sticker-Payload of 1550-Truck GVWR 7050-Front GAWR 3750-Rear GAWR 4050. I pull a 2017 25" Airstream with a base weight of 5503 and a max weight of 7300.

Thanks again

Life is a Highway 09-26-2018 10:07 PM

I have a 2018 F-150 with Max Tow same trailer, same hitch. My truck sits level only drips 1-1.5 inches. With the first initial set up at the dealer, with the equalizer hitch they brought it our hooked it up and she was squatting some.

I said please do it again boys as per the instructions and it came back out level and it handles great. Im afraid to run it over the scales because!

I should have got the SUPERDUTY! Boy do I regret that.

RandyNH 09-27-2018 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nedmoto (Post 2161561)
To reprise my with my Equalizer connected to the AS my CAT scale ticked showed steer axle 3060-drive axel 4150-trailer axel 5540-gross weight 12740.

From the sticker-Payload of 1550-Truck GVWR 7050-Front GAWR 3750-Rear GAWR 4050. I pull a 2017 25" Airstream with a base weight of 5503 and a max weight of 7300.

Thanks again

So you were already over on your GVWR and Rear GAWR before you add in the additional weight of the AirSafe product. Be careful with those numbers

nedmoto 09-27-2018 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Life is a Highway (Post 2161616)
I have a 2018 F-150 with Max Tow same trailer, same hitch. My truck sits level only drips 1-1.5 inches. With the first initial set up at the dealer, with the equalizer hitch they brought it our hooked it up and she was squatting some.

I said please do it again boys as per the instructions and it came back out level and it handles great. Im afraid to run it over the scales because!

I should have got the SUPERDUTY! Boy do I regret that.

My F-150 also has the max tow package also but I don't think that has any contribution to payload. I believe since the AirSafe extends the hitch by at least a foot there is leverage at play adding to tongue weight. I currently have all 7 washers on the Equalizer and have two available holes left to move up. I think I'll move it up one hole and weigh it again connected and unconnected from the Equalizer.

I too wanted a F-350 but it was a fail from a daily driver and garage friendly standpoint, hence I want to get the best set up.

MWBishop 09-27-2018 01:24 PM

...drive axel 2760 lbs..."
To

"Equalizer connected drive axel 4150..."


Wow - that's an increase of nearly 1400 lbs!

Seems pretty high for a 25 ft'er.


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