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AirstreamCSH 05-02-2017 05:46 AM

This thread is as inspirational as it is sad. You may have a future in building cabinetry for the Sport assuming you kept patterns.

It would be of enormous help to the AS community if someone from the factory acknowledged they read this thread and while not defending themselves, at least gave a nod that they were listening as they laughed on the way to the bank.

waninae39 05-02-2017 08:57 AM

good job can you please show the table folded and unfolded. I want to see what it looks like. BTW leevalley.ca has great hinges for folding tables

SilverLife 05-02-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AirstreamCSH (Post 1943859)
This thread is as inspirational as it is sad. You may have a future in building cabinetry for the Sport assuming you kept patterns.

It would be of enormous help to the AS community if someone from the factory acknowledged they read this thread and while not defending themselves, at least gave a nod that they were listening as they laughed on the way to the bank.

Thanks, I guess. It's disappointing to see the level of workmanship present in our 22 at least. I don't​ think my little posts will change anything corporately, but may help someone else make some changes should they decide to do so. I may offer my fabrication services in the future, although I'd have to hire more help and add on to my shop- we stay very busy doing custom work already. And yes- I save all templates, although the CNC can spit them out much faster.

SilverLife 05-02-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by waninae39 (Post 1943938)
good job can you please show the table folded and unfolded. I want to see what it looks like. BTW leevalley.ca has great hinges for folding tables

I will certainly show the table with dimensions and details when it's complete. Lee Valley does have some nice hardware but they don't carry a butler table hinge in polished ss- only brass. I typically use Satsune or Hafele.

SilverLife 05-02-2017 06:26 PM

Bench Back Rails
 
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I already had a cap in mind to go on top of the stark white 3/4" bench backs and to replace the plain white laminate shelf by the bed, (which now is perilously close to my head while sleeping). As I was clearing up walnut scraps this morning destined for the kindling pile, I suddenly decided to follow the curve of the bench backs on down to the seat base. (I always feels like I just won a hand of 21 in Vegas, when trash wood scraps turn into something cool.) :brows:

SilverLife 05-02-2017 06:41 PM

Mother of All Squeaks Destroyed
 
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When we did our walk through at the dealer the "tour guide" made a comment about a squeak somewhere. He thought it was one of the acrylic bulkhead panels rubbing in the aluminum clips. I heard it also but my hearing was muffled due to the case of Aluminititus that I had contracted. :blink: In the days following it's trip home, the Squeak grew like a monster on steroids; fingernails on a chalkboard through a megaphone was pleasant sounding compared to this abhorrence. When I ripped apart the sink side to do the backup light wiring, I found it: the worst install of a bracket I've ever come across, and done apparently BEFORE the sink cabinet was in. The words I chose to utter as I attempted to remove it without being able to get ANY tools on it, will have to be :censored:due to the mostly family nature of this forum. I believe the cussing actually helped to get it out.:D

Rpatrick16 05-02-2017 09:49 PM

Your work is very impressive and I like what you're doing. However, my Sport is a 2016 and the workmanship is light-years better than what you've encountered. I wonder if there is something to be said about a "Wednesday build" as in the worse day for an automobile build. Really sad what you've encountered.

ohmman 05-03-2017 01:35 PM

I wish I had your woodworking skills. As you know, I feel very similarly about the quality of construction on our 2017 22' Sport. I'd love to revamp a number of things but really have limited experience in the shop.

I'm very much looking forward to future installations on this thread. They're inspiring.

SilverLife 05-03-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rpatrick16 (Post 1944329)
Your work is very impressive and I like what you're doing. However, my Sport is a 2016 and the workmanship is light-years better than what you've encountered. I wonder if there is something to be said about a "Wednesday build" as in the worse day for an automobile build. Really sad what you've encountered.

Thanks. IMO, I think the "Wednesday Build" has stretched out to include the whole year[emoji17]. But hearing of the quality of your Sport encourages me and gives me some hope. I am happy that you own a well built unit- I wouldn't wish my disappointment on anyone. But when I'm finished, we'll have a trailer that's been gone through top to bottom and have something to be proud of. Regardless, we still really like the layout and size of the 22.

SilverLife 05-03-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ohmman (Post 1944604)
I wish I had your woodworking skills. As you know, I feel very similarly about the quality of construction on our 2017 22' Sport. I'd love to revamp a number of things but really have limited experience in the shop.

I'm very much looking forward to future installations on this thread. They're inspiring.

I'm glad my discontent has transformed into inspiration [emoji6]. I don't know about my skills being such a big deal; really it's just years of practice. Interestingly, one Christmas when I was about 6 or 7, I got some newfangled plastic mechanical toy. I just had to know how it worked. To my parents horror, I had the thing in twenty pieces minutes after receiving it. Of course I must have mangled some plastic fitting, so it never went back together. But I figured out what made it work, even though I was told that was the end of future gifts of toys for me 😑. Anyway, I guess I've never been afraid to rip apart some shiny new toy! And practicing my "skills" along the way.

rmkrum 05-03-2017 05:47 PM

Look for "the knack" from the Dilbert Show on YouTube. Explains it very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmYDgncMhXw

There is a longer version--this is what I got on a fast search...

"Guilty as charged, your honor..."

SilverLife 05-04-2017 12:55 PM

Thanks rmkrum; at least I now know the name of my condition:brows:

SilverLife 05-04-2017 01:12 PM

Table Install
 
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I have completed the table for now. I may change out the hinges for larger heaver ones, as the leaves are pretty heavy. The top's finished thickness is 13/16". With the Lagun bracket it works as designed and has about 10 or 12 different possible combinations of setup for use. I may trim a 1/2" or so off the length but at the folded size of 18" x 30 1/2" it seems about right. Open the two leaves and it's 36" x 30 1/2". Folded, it stores neatly beside the bed.

After overthinking the support for the top in the bed platform position, I have devised a simple system to support it on two 1" square aluminum arms, supported by 4 unobtrusive brackets that won't impact a shin or knee. A ledger around the benches, besides looking ungainly, would have to project out too far to catch the top and extend past the overhang of the bench tops. The aluminum arms will clip into brackets and store in the newly created space beside the curbside tire well, which is now accessible by a lift top lid (the middle bench top, which was screwed down). I will post details when the hardware arrives and I install. For now, I am moving on to other AS and non AS projects.

SilverLife 05-06-2017 04:55 PM

Bench Back Rails
 
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Added walnut rails to the narrow bench backs continuing down to the bench bases, to make them look a little nicer and more functional. On the door side it acts as a handrail of sorts and a place to set keys etc. On the bed side it replaces the white laminate shelf and moves storage for phone, alarm clock up away from head height while laying on the bed. I added a 1'4" x 1/4" rail in curly maple to keep things from sliding off. I'll fill the countersunk screw holes with aluminum plugs when they arrive with a hardware order.

Cannonball 05-06-2017 10:10 PM

Following.

SilverLife 05-07-2017 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by redvfr02 (Post 1946178)
Just got my Airstream back from my dealer. Installed the truma tankless water heater. Haven't tried it yet. Will update tomorrow. Attachment 284906Attachment 284907

A fine heater, but a thread hijack nevertheless.

ohmman 05-07-2017 10:20 AM

The real question here is what this particular Airstream model is going to be called when it's done. Because it most certainly won't be a 22' Sport anymore. :cool:

SilverLife 05-07-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ohmman (Post 1946401)
The real question here is what this particular Airstream model is going to be called when it's done. Because it most certainly won't be a 22' Sport anymore. :cool:

I had considered making an aluminum oval on the CNC that says Custom, but that doesn't seem too original, AND for all of you with significant others, you know that there is always a bit of "collective bargaining" going on. For every item you see done in a post, behind the scenes decisions have been "guided" by a SuBWOVP [emoji16] (Supreme Being with Omniscient Veto Power)! I cannot take all the credit for the numerous details. So the oval crest, IF changed, will be determined in a large part by....... the SuBWOVP.[emoji58]

ohmman 05-07-2017 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverLife (Post 1946412)
I had considered making an aluminum oval on the CNC that says Custom, but that doesn't seem too original, AND for all of you with significant others, you know that there is always a bit of "collective bargaining" going on. For every item you see done in a post, behind the scenes decisions have been "guided" by a SuBWOVP [emoji16] (Supreme Being with Omniscient Veto Power)! I cannot take all the credit for the numerous details. So the oval crest, IF changed, will be determined in a large part by....... the SuBWOVP.[emoji58]

ha! Well, I'm sure you'll figure out something appropriate. Given the little we know about you from the forum, I could take your member name and say that a "22 Silver" would by no means be a poor choice.

SilverLife 05-08-2017 04:50 PM

No Wasted Space
 
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After extending the bed to 5 feet wide, refabricating and moving the front bed wall forward, I was left with a very small space next to the front dinette wall. Pretty small at 9 1/4" wide x 21" deep, but still usable space not to be wasted in any RV or boat. The SuBWOVP exercised her executive veto powers on a couple of ideas I had, so I "decided" to just fab up a simple cabinet with a small kick space. But I didn't want to loose the outlet on that wall so I did some creative engineering. I also removed all hardware from the little, now useless door, flipped it over to hide the handle holes and screwed it into place. It was never a practical door anyway since I'd rather access the storage under the bench from above.


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