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TouringDan 04-11-2019 09:33 AM

David

Thanks for the information about Kirstrof building an off grid 76 Sovereign. I will check out his thread. Us off grid folks need to learn from each other.

Dan

TouringDan 01-11-2020 11:34 PM

Dan's 34' Makeover
 
SPEC COMPARISON WITH THE 2020 CLASSIC 33’. I happen to be looking at the recent thread about the new 2020 Airstream 33’ Classic with the new white interior. Because it is 33’ and almost as long as our 34’ I thought it would be interesting to compare some of the specifications.

Here they are.

Total length 2020-33’ 33’ 95-34’ 35’- 1”

Total area 2020-33’ 250 sq. ft. 95-34’ 251 sq. ft.

Tongue weight 2020-33’ 1,175 lbs. 95-34’ 800 lbs.

Base weight 2020-33’ 8,261 lbs. 95-34’ 7,100 lbs.

Gross weight 2020-33’ 10,000 lbs. 95-34’ 8,900 lbs.

Net Capacity 2020-33’ 1,739 lbs. 95-34’ 1,800 lbs.

Fresh water 2020-33’ 54 gal 95-34’. 50 gal

Gray water 2020-33’ 37 gal 95-34’ 30 gal

Black water 2020-33’ 39 gal 95-34’ 35 gal

Axles 2020-33’ double 95-34’ triple

A very interesting comparison- I like our 95-34’ which weighs 1,100 lbs less, 375 lbs less tongue weight and 50 % more tire capacity and braking because it is triple axle!

Dan

rideair 01-12-2020 09:17 AM

Looks like Airstream is following in the footsteps of your average American. Gotten wider around the middle, overall heavier, can’t carry as much weight, and are full of more crap!:lol:

All joking aside, looking back at my 1966 26’ Overlander and the weight there of compared to todays 26/27’ trailers, it’s rather sad. And people wonder why you need a Ύ or ton truck to pull them down the road.:blush:

Oh, and your foam removal tool works. I did improve the system by having my 18 yrs. daughter hold a "Shop-Vac" under it to suck-in all the foam as it came off the ceiling. Made very little to clean up off the floor. Now to remove the glue:sad:

I think, I'll be going back with Zolatone paint on the ceiling. They now have stuff that can be applied with a standard paint gun.

Enjoy,

TouringDan 01-12-2020 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rideair (Post 2322873)
Looks like Airstream is following in the footsteps of your average American. Gotten wider around the middle, overall heavier, can’t carry as much weight, and are full of more crap!:lol:

All joking aside, looking back at my 1966 26’ Overlander and the weight there of compared to todays 26/27’ trailers, it’s rather sad. And people wonder why you need a Ύ or ton truck to pull them down the road.:blush:

Oh, and your foam removal tool works. I did improve the system by having my 18 yrs. daughter hold a "Shop-Vac" under it to suck-in all the foam as it came off the ceiling. Made very little to clean up off the floor. Now to remove the glue:sad:

I think, I'll be going back with Zolatone paint on the ceiling. They now have stuff that can be applied with a standard paint gun.

Enjoy,



Unfortunately that is an accurate assessment of the average American.

Great idea on using the shop vacuum to suck up the foam. I think it is great to copy what someone else has done and then improve on it. I do it all the time.

Glad to hear that you are going to use Zolatone on the ceiling. I think it looks better. I would never put the vinyl covered foam back on the ceiling.

Dan

dbj216 01-12-2020 08:46 PM

Hi there, hope all is well with you. The late model Airstreams are certainly heavier and likely stronger. I've done a couple of late model trailer inspections for interested buyers. I've been impressed at how much better built they are compared to my 86 Limited 34' or my 75 Overlander 27', or my 66 Trade Wind 24'. The 70s trailers suffered from "make it light weight, make it low cost" mentality. Supposedly you could tow them with a Chevy station wagon with a V8. The materials and designs just are way behind the late model Airstreams.

Touring Dan, you will purchase a 2020 Classic about 40 years from now and do a makeover on it. Let us know what you think on how well they have held up compared to your 95. I'm thinking it will be very good indeed.

David


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