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Old 02-03-2010, 12:31 AM   #1
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1959 Overlander stove fold-away

Here's a puzzle we're still trying to figure out with our newly-acquired 1959 Overlander: The fold-away counter over the stove bumps into the right-side cabinet support. We haven't found any sort of latch or anything to hold it up, either. What am I missing?
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:15 AM   #2
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I wonder if it should be on a good heavy duty piano hinge? I think that's what it is called. It's a hinge that runs the width of the counter top piece that lifts up. Then, perhaps, some sort of bumper to keep it off the wall a bit?
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:27 AM   #3
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Here's a puzzle we're still trying to figure out with our newly-acquired 1959 Overlander: The fold-away counter over the stove bumps into the right-side cabinet support. We haven't found any sort of latch or anything to hold it up, either. What am I missing?
When you get the stove cover to near vertical, pull it forward towards you. The cover moves back and forth (rear to front) on its hinge. This allows it to continue its arc and be dropped to be horizontally even with the stove. There may be a swing out brace to support it in that position.

Look on the vertical face of the right hand cabinet support (its actually an enclosed vent pipe for the heater exhaust) for 2 holes that would have held in place a 2 tang fork. The space between the tangs held the stove cover in place vertically. That fork is what seems to be missing from your trailer. Before the stove cover reached the fork, you would have to pull it forward towards you to align it with the tangs, then push it away from you to rest between the tangs.

Someone with a '59 trailer might be able to photograph and measure their original thin metal fork. Be patient for the moment. Have a fork made or make one yourself. Good luck.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:30 AM   #4
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I know this part well as I removed it for some reason early on in the restoration and "misplaced" it. At first I thought it was a open or closed operation and thought it should lock halfway. Of course the two holes left on the wall was the hint that there must be something in the parts box and lucky for me found the hinge fork lock.

Fred is correct that it is really a like a fork with the two middle forks removed....that holds the top in place.

This looks like AND IS a regular hinge that was refabricated as the "fork lock" at the factory.
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Fred is right on with his description. The hinge is so designed to allow the stove counter cover to slide forward enough to get by the heater vent, then it lays horizontal. It will need some type of support while in this position or it puts too much pressure on the hinge which will cause the hinge screws to come out of the counter.

Now how about some other pictures of your '59 Overlander? Looks like a nice find.

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A few more pix showing hinge lock ..
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Looks like you got some helpful answers here, but I just wanted to chime in and congratulate you on your new trailer. I'd love to compare notes and pictures when you get a chance. I have the same trailer in the middle of a total restoration. Unfortunately, I don't have the fork that Fred referred to, but as I've pulled our trailer apart bit-by-bit, I've become more familiar with it's construction and operation than I ever would have imagined.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:30 PM   #8
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Thanks, all. It doesn't appear that it had a hinge lock; I can't find any corresponding screw holes. But it definitely slides forward in front of that heater exhaust. I couldn't find any holes that seemed to indicate a support arm had been on there; maybe because it's got a few inches of counter to the right of the stove?
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That's probably how it was to be done. Just keep a watchful eye on the screws into the side of the countertop to make sure they're secure. There is alot of torque on them from the heavy floating countertop and keep the heavier items closer to the hinge to relieve the stress in the open position.

OK, that's solved. What's next??

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Old 02-07-2010, 10:15 PM   #10
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Thanks for the welcome, nmbosa. My wife (Someday'59) and I have been reading all through your blog; it's been a great resource for us over the last 2 weeks.

I've uploaded a couple of quick pics of the 59. I'm trying to get our restoration blog ramped up now; there should be lots of interior picks on there soon.
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OK, that's solved. What's next??
LOL. I've got a ton.

The plywood flooring is pretty well shot all over. I can see that the construction is frame-flooring-shell. Is there a (relatively) simple way to replace the plywood without lifting the entire shell off the frame at once?

Sorry if this has already been answered in a different post.
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Is there a (relatively) simple way to replace the plywood without lifting the entire shell off the frame at once?

Sorry if this has already been answered in a different post.
Ouch, the million dollar (almost it seems) question. Start reading here: Major Restoration Threads

Utee94 pointed out this index of restoration threads many months ago and often recommends it to newcomers. I found many of these very helpful when trying to figure out what to do after I realized I was the umpteenth person on this forum to have bought a trailer with a totally rotten floor. There are definitely ways to replace the subfloor without lifting the shell, but none are very simple. However, if you are halfway handy, do your research (ie read lots of these threads) and have some patience, you can get it done.

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LOL. I've got a ton.

The plywood flooring is pretty well shot all over. I can see that the construction is frame-flooring-shell. Is there a (relatively) simple way to replace the plywood without lifting the entire shell off the frame at once?

Sorry if this has already been answered in a different post.
OK YOU TWO! (bsanders & someday59)

You are soooooo busted! Tag teaming these thread questions about the same fabulous new/old Overlander! Very Nice.

Yes, this has been covered in many other threads. In GREAT DETAIL! Others with offer directions where to look. I did not remember the collect the links and it is late now.....tomorrow?

As for relatively simple???.....I think not. But it looks like a very nice trailer worthy of restoration.

Late now......too tired to continuuuue........
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Is there a (relatively) simple way to replace the plywood without lifting the entire shell off the frame at once?
We finished up a successful "shell-on" floor replacement & restoration of our '56 Safari this last year. You can read how we did it here in our "It's a Girl!!!" thread. Start around post #104 for the floor replacement part...

I wouldn't go so far as to say it was "simple" but for those of us without the room, ability, location, desire or <fill-in-the-blank> to do a "shell-off" floor replacement, it worked out very well.

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