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Old 09-06-2004, 03:25 PM   #21
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I think the plywood is similar to yours, acx, doug fir - think its called sanded superply.

I also took your advice and coated with Varathane as well as the epoxy. My plan is to get it in, then give it a second coat of Varathane.

Thanks for your encouragement


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I think the plywood is similar to yours, acx, doug fir - think its called sanded superply.

I also took your advice and coated with Varathane as well as the epoxy. My plan is to get it in, then give it a second coat of Varathane.

Thanks for your encouragement


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Good idea on the second coat.
I put on 2 coats, and I am glad I did it. I am walking on this new wood now, rolling the floor jacks and tools,a nd it has not accepted any dirt, other than deep scuffs from dragging the shell across it, ahem.
I'll recoat teh scuffs later.
My shell is sitting 4" above the floor, supported by 4 jack stands. This week is belly wrap time. I got all new belly pieces cut and laid out, will attach at the frame first, then bend up and over the channel.
I found some nice closed cell foam for insulation. It's a packaging foam by-product, closed cell foam sheets, about 3/4 in thick. I use it to lay on onder the trailer when i take my afternoon naps.....er, when I work under the trailer. I noticed immense warmth on my back, even though the concrete floor is usually cold. So, I am going to cut up these sheets and use them for flooring insulation. I can stick them to the bottom of the floor with liquid nails out of the caulking gun, and a few staples for immediate support.
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Old 09-06-2004, 03:54 PM   #23
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The reason I'm waiting to do the second coat after I get it in is because I'm going to be gluing/screwing butt joints and figured I'd give it a good final coat after all thats done. I really like that Varathane - thanks for the tip.

Let us know how the buck riveting goes.

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Ken,

Creampuff brought his 67 Safari over last week for some body work.
we disconnected most of the windowsheet on the street side, and massaged out some scratches and dents. It'spossible, by the way. Just take your time and keep working the aluminum, and eventually the creases subside to an all but invisible state.
Anyways, Murray ( Creampuff) and I buck riveted the panels back together, and it worked great. Used the rivets from Aircraftspruce, and my little air hammer. 1 second, medium pressure, on a very low setting did the job.
The bucking bar just basically needs to be held against the back of teh rivet sort of like with 10-15lbs of pressure. I practiced on a few pieces first, but it was quite easy.
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Old 09-06-2004, 05:15 PM   #25
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I'm really glad to hear that. Soon as the floor is in, I start on the skin - don't let me get too far ahead of ya ......

In my case, I've got a big ol long scrape on one side, plus an old recepticle hole (P.O. used two power cords - one for the trailer and one for a/c - I'm combining them to one) and on the other side, I've got a scrape and a tear from what I assume was either a tire blow out (wheel well is ok though) or slopy tire removal plus the old stove vent and the old water heater cut out (will fit with a modern water heater). If all works out, should have nice new clean sides.

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Keep up the good work gentlemen. I sense a vintage Airstream redo in my future and you guys are paving the way for the rest of less-adventerous folks. I think I'll have to move out of the heat before I take on another vintage Airstream though unless I get a cooled shop with tall ceilings. Yeah, fat chance. Guess I can live vicariously through you guys. Keep up with the postings, its inspirational.

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Old 09-06-2004, 05:34 PM   #27
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But its a dry heat..................
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Yeah, but then, so is a fire

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Old 09-12-2004, 11:49 AM   #29
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Getting there

Got the final coat on the frame and first of floor sections in - making progress - using a little leverage to lift the frame makes it really easy to push the floor under the frame.

I also spent 98 cents each for conduit to run brake wires. Will also use it to run the a/c wire to the fuse box.

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I know it seems that heat is heat, but our climate gets humid in September, and it's the first time that 90F has bothered me.
Usually I just bring a few gallons of water to drink and go for it, slowly.
Welding in the heat sucks, though.
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Got the final coat on the frame and first of floor sections in - making progress - using a little leverage to lift the frame makes it really easy to push the floor under the frame.

I also spent 98 cents each for conduit to run brake wires. Will also use it to run the a/c wire to the fuse box.

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Hey Ken, this looks great! Don't hurt yourself...
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Thanks - I feel better about it as each piece goes in - pretty unstable with the whole floor out. I'll update again when floor is in.

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Old 02-24-2005, 06:10 PM   #33
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An update.....

It has been a while since I updated this thread......

Winter got me as I was trying to get the floor done. I had a little epoxy problem in that I could not get a section of epoxy to fully cure. So that was it for floor replacement till spring. I waited several months for the epoxy to cure - talked to all kinds of experts on it and finally heated/scraped the old epoxy, put a new coat on and let it cure in a room that I heated to 80 degrees. Since the fall I have completed all the interior cabinets, installed new tail lights (about a month before I found out reproduction lenses were being made again ) - they are nice stainless steel so they should work pretty good, fixed the wheel wells, and rebuilt all the interior lighting.

I've done about everything I can do until spring, so I'm on hold till then. At that time I'll get the floor bolted down, then all new running gear, belly pan and polish. Hopefully by late summer I'll be able to get into the interior and install all these new cabinets that I have scattered all over the house. - as you can tell from the picture of my dining room full of Airstream cabinets.
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:36 PM   #34
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Clock restoration

I even had some time to restore this cool clock I got from ebay for the trailer
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Hi Guys, I really like the plywood you used on your floor. I am doing mine soon with the epoxy on the edges-good idea! Where can I buy the acx, doug fir? Is there a difference between this and marine grade? I want to use a good wood but dont want to break the bank either, any suggestions? TIA
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I purchased my ACX at a local lumberyard - I live in a rural area, so I know it would be very easy to find in Salt Lake. Salt Lake has a large plywood dealer that sells marine - if you need the name, let me know. Anyway, I don't think you need marine. The glue in marine is the same as ACX - the core layers are a little better than ACX - the big difference is that marine does not have any voids in layers so it makes for easier bending. Since the trailer floor is flat, there is really no need for marine. The cost for ACX if pretty reasonable - if I remember I think I paid about $40 per sheet for 5/8".

Also another tip, buy your epoxy from Fiberglass coatings in Florida - much cheaper than West Marine and all epoxy is basically the same - also be careful with mixing and temp - as I found out the hard way - easy stuff to use as long as you follow directions - epoxy is very toxic so wear a resporator

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I used ACX also, worked out fine so far.
I sealed every panel with a few coats of Varathane.
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I used 3/4" ACX, edge sealed with epoxy.
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ACX it is then. You guys are my mentors. Don, I really liked your "Shell On" floor replacement idea but in the end I decided to go with "The Full Monte". Thanks for the help and stay tuned because I will definently have more questions.
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Progress!!!

Floor is now done and I've done a first pass polish on the stree side. Starting to look like a trailer again.

Next project is new axles, then belly....

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