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05-17-2013, 08:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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more insulation and wiring tomorrow
Ted, the insulation is one layer of Prodex. Hoping not to become embroiled in the insulation arguments....you know, like tires, axles and batteries....I am now going with 2 inches of pink type modern insulation before the new skins and wiring.
What do you mean retired....under employed? I still do a full Citrus Grove operation in the Rio Grande Valley and a full Horse hay operation up here. Then there is the house stuff, the old car stuff, old airplane stuff, Typical paperwork stuff, maintenance of the place here (dumb, dumb dumb.....I have planted over 600 trees in the past three years during this draught and I have to hand water all survivors on a regular basis. I should retire!
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05-17-2013, 08:48 PM
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#122
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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ribs are coated
Ribs are coated with a rubberized coating....same one I use to seal all interior seams. Hows your Cloud doing?
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05-17-2013, 08:51 PM
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#123
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
Ted, the insulation is one layer of Prodex. Hoping not to become embroiled in the insulation arguments....you know, like tires, axles and batteries....I am now going with 2 inches of pink type modern insulation before the new skins and wiring.
What do you mean retired....under employed? I still do a full Citrus Grove operation in the Rio Grande Valley and a full Horse hay operation up here. Then there is the house stuff, the old car stuff, old airplane stuff, Typical paperwork stuff, maintenance of the place here (dumb, dumb dumb.....I have planted over 600 trees in the past three years during this draught and I have to hand water all survivors on a regular basis. I should retire!
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Well, then, you ARE a machine! My husband, who is a vegetable farmer, is bushed when he gets home! He helps me out on his down time, though. That's a lot of trees to prune & water, that's for sure! We have friends who have citrus down in Naples, FL. Lots o work!
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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05-21-2013, 09:46 AM
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#124
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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Tornado Safe Room
Two days of hiding inside so I am working insulation and wiring. Got everyone inside the Red Barn....out of the hail but, like all else, no real protection against the Tornados around here.
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05-21-2013, 06:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 27' Globetrotter
1999 25' Safari
Somewhere
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I was wondering how you survived the tornadoes, glad to hear you did.
Your work is moving along great! For insulation I'm still thinking of doing some of that spray on or paint on for the inside of the skins and then the Prodex/strips of foam board, I guess when I get to that point I'll decide then. (I'm also still considering the InsulShield Technology system that we use in the old cars; it works so well but is a little pricier.) I'm at the point on our Bubble where I must get the polishing done so I can seal the seams and then be free to work on the inside.
However, right now I'm having to meet an installation deadline for some of my drapery work -- Friday is the day; have the installer scheduled and can't wait to get this job (three rooms) installed so I can get on to fun things -- like working on our Bubble! Trouble is, the phone keeps ringing with more work, so I can't really see daylight to get on the Bubble again; not really complaining, but then...........
Deb
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05-21-2013, 06:57 PM
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#126
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
Ted, the insulation is one layer of Prodex. Hoping not to become embroiled in the insulation arguments....you know, like tires, axles and batteries....I am now going with 2 inches of pink type modern insulation before the new skins and wiring...!
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Also avoiding an argument, I am very pleased with using a second layer of prodex over the ribs as a thermal break. Too easy.
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05-26-2013, 12:32 PM
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#127
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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Interior skins
Initial fit. Sure enough, just duplicating the originals did not go smoothly. Just enough difference from the new floor and other work requires a lot of hand trimming.
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05-26-2013, 01:26 PM
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#128
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
Ted, the insulation is one layer of Prodex. Hoping not to become embroiled in the insulation arguments....you know, like tires, axles and batteries....I am now going with 2 inches of pink type modern insulation before the new skins and wiring.
What do you mean retired....under employed? I still do a full Citrus Grove operation in the Rio Grande Valley and a full Horse hay operation up here. Then there is the house stuff, the old car stuff, old airplane stuff, Typical paperwork stuff, maintenance of the place here (dumb, dumb dumb.....I have planted over 600 trees in the past three years during this draught and I have to hand water all survivors on a regular basis. I should retire!
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So, did you put the Prodex against the outside wall and the the 2" of pink to the inside and then the skins?
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05-26-2013, 04:05 PM
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#129
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
Initial fit. Sure enough, just duplicating the originals did not go smoothly. Just enough difference from the new floor and other work requires a lot of hand trimming.
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Those same panels gave me some trouble on my '63. I ended up setting against the wall and on the floor, then ran a sharpie 1/4" off the floor to mark the bottom edge. I finally got a good fit even though they are hidden behind the wrap around dinette.
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05-26-2013, 09:57 PM
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#130
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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More tomorrow
Yes Bruce. Prodex on outer wall, then fiberglass then prodex again.
I am doing the same lean into the wall then mark 1/4 off the floor and trim. I am overly cautious of not cutting to much off, so I am in and out of the interior a lot. Time consuming.
Am trying to figure the wiring layout now.
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06-08-2013, 07:35 PM
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#131
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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wiring
I find it very hard to lay out the wiring when the interior plan is entirely in my head. I have roughed out the dimensions...just that. So now as I put in the wiring, AC and DC, I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about it all. I continue.....
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06-11-2013, 07:59 AM
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#132
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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First interior panels back in.
Got the first roof panel back in. Thanks for Clecos.
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06-14-2013, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 27' Globetrotter
1999 25' Safari
Somewhere
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Hey Robin!
I realize your polishing is done, but you might be interested in reading about a product I tried out today, I posted on our Bubble thread about it. It's "Wizard's Metal Polish" in a tin can. It worked fast and pretty well on the built-up corrosion on our '56.
If you have any info on this product, please share it with me, but so far, it has worked the best for me. I don't know if I have enough strength in my arms to get the polishers to work with the rouge bars, etc.
How are things going on yours?
Deb
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06-16-2013, 09:45 AM
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#134
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
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Valley View
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Deb....I am up for trying anything. I'll let you know.
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06-16-2013, 09:50 AM
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#135
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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panels and wiring and lights
Been busy with Ranch work. Hay is in....now back to the Bubble. Only one picture and its poor, but you can get an idea.
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06-17-2013, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 27' Globetrotter
1999 25' Safari
Somewhere
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Well, I haven't been able to find a way to get this product to stay on a polisher disc, so I'm back to using the rouge bars. DH has a black bar he picked up at a car show a few years ago (also a white bar........I didn't even know he had these), so today I'm going to do the black, grey, see how that looks. If the black doesn't cut the corrosion, I'll go back to the 1500 grit wet sanding, then the grey, pink and white. DH thinks I need to save the "new" product for smaller things, but I still stand by what I said before -- you don't have to rub hard at all, just circular motion until it turns black, wipe off and buff with a clean cloth.
I am envious of the progress you are making, but so glad that you are ahead of us in that we can see the proper steps to take. I really am concerned that we'll skip something important and realize it too late. Your Bubble is looking so good!
Deb
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06-24-2013, 08:02 AM
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#137
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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Texas heat slowing me up
The Mach 8 is here and going in today. I had a mess under the old AC which dictated some work and creativity....Cleaned , corrosion control, etc.
Then I had to work around the hole in the roof where the previous owner had a residential type stack placed above the toilet he had installed. I hate it...but, thats the way it goes. I have a great story about the solar panel/low profile /stainless fan I bought and planned for.....later.
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06-25-2013, 09:24 AM
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#138
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Rivet Master
2020 27' Globetrotter
1999 25' Safari
Somewhere
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We love stories, can't wait to hear about the solar panel/low profile/SS fan.
I see in your one photo that you didn't paint an extended length of white on top, did you only paint the area where your ac will be mounted? (Trying to get tips for our use.) Also, saw your clear hose for the condensation on the ac, but it looks rather short. Does it attach up to another hose line which is mounted behind the insulation? (Needing tips here too.) You should know me by now -- always full of questions, trying to learn.
Also can't wait to hear what you think of the Mach 8's ability to keep up with the outside heat and noise level.
Thanks so much for sharing.
Deb
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06-27-2013, 06:13 AM
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#139
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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progress
Mach 8 is installed. fishing the wires thru the new panel so I can install light fixtures and get ready for the re-rivet job.
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07-16-2013, 07:40 AM
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#140
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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lots done
There has been a lot of progress...not that you could tell....Today the original axle has to go. Not because it's old....I like the spring types. It is the spindles. They are way to small for newer type brakes and hubs. So, like I did on Bub the Bubble....a new straight axle goes in today. I actually like the lift I now get from it. Pictures tonight.
Bought some Worthingtons from a Forum member and they, with the propane set up, are installed too.
Polished aluminum Battery box from Summit Racing also in place.
The new Mach 8 makes it a pleasure to work inside....beat the Texas heat.
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