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Old 11-02-2006, 05:50 AM   #1
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What now? 1957 Sovereign of the Road

OK guys, we're diving in headlong and driving down to pick up the beast you see below in Florida next weekend. I have them servicing the axles and brakes, but I need to buy rims and tires for the trip home (find a light bar too). The guys I'm getting it from are realtors who acquired it with a property and don't know much about ASs, so can I get some recommendations for rims/tires and where to buy them? Any other advice would be welcome also...

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Old 11-02-2006, 06:41 AM   #2
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I got my light bar at U-Haul. The tires and rims I got at a dealer that sells car haulers, and other trailers. Actually I think I got the rims there and bought the tires at a discount tire store, maybe Sam's. Be sure you get tires rated for a trailer and not just car tires. Good looking trailer, lots of work ahead. Good luck.
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Old 11-02-2006, 06:52 AM   #3
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Wow! We know what you'll be doing all winter! We're looking for the interior photos next week so we can have the before and after on your find.
BTW for us MOHO folks.... what is it? How much???
Good luck and please be safe on your trip home.
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Old 11-02-2006, 08:51 AM   #4
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BTW for us MOHO folks.... what is it? How much???
My guess is a 30' Sovereign of the Road. Body looks to be in nice condition! I'm just starting to get into the VAP -- but a Sovereign of the Road is frequently mentioned ... isn't it Rob's project?

Congrats on the pickup -- all the joy and toil will balance on the plus side!
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When I picked mine up I got rims and tires at Discount Tire and cheapest magnetic tow lights were from Harbor Freight.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:29 AM   #6
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My guess is a 30' Sovereign of the Road. Body looks to be in nice condition!
They advertised it as a 26' AS, but I thought it looked a lot like the 30' SOR in the Vintage Aristream photo archives also.

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I'm just starting to get into the VAP -- but a Sovereign of the Road is frequently mentioned ... isn't it Rob's project?
Been listening to the VAP also, but don't recall..

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Wow! We know what you'll be doing all winter! We're looking for the interior photos next week so we can have the before and after on your find.
Intend to document the rebuild here -- $2,500 purchase, but I predict thousands more before we use her.

Can any kind soul out there tell me what size rims and tires I need to buy?
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:33 AM   #7
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My guess is a 30' Sovereign of the Road. Body looks to be in nice condition! I'm just starting to get into the VAP -- but a Sovereign of the Road is frequently mentioned ... isn't it Rob's project?

Congrats on the pickup -- all the joy and toil will balance on the plus side!
Yup, Rob's trailer is a 1958 Sovereign of the Road and his blog is at: http://sweetsovereign.blogspot.com/

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Old 11-02-2006, 11:44 AM   #8
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58? in St. Pete, FL

I was looking at that.. it is a 57/58 Overlander I believe. This one was listed as a 57 on the VAC classifieds for $2500 - what I paid for mine. I am very interested to see the interior of this trailer. If it was closer - it would be in my yard!

I would love to know the Serial number. It might have 14.5 inch tires on it. Let us know as the picture they sent me, I can not make out the tag by the door under the window.

What are your plans on it. If you are parting things, can I have first dibs for parts?

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Bring several length od 2"X10" lumber at 10" and 20" lengths to drive one axle up on to change the tires on the other. Cut a bevel on the front edge.

Wal-Mart sells an inexpensive light bar (magnetic individual lights) with a long wire - but it may not be that long. Works well - magnets really hold - place it on the bumper. $30 bucks or so.

There will be tons of trailer dealers along the way that will carry the rims - WHY NEW RIMS? Are they thay bad? New tires will be easy to find - get the seller to send you the sizes off the current set on the trailer- if very old they can be crossed matched to new sizes. Old rims can be cleaned up for the short term, most tire places can clean up the bead and seal new tires with new stems. Get high pressure stems (metal).

Tape down your vents for the tow home - keeps them on until you can check them out.

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Old 11-02-2006, 12:38 PM   #10
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Bring several length od 2"X10" lumber at 10" and 20" lengths to drive one axle up on to change the tires on the other. Cut a bevel on the front edge.

Wal-Mart sells an inexpensive light bar (magnetic individual lights) with a long wire - but it may not be that long. Works well - magnets really hold - place it on the bumper. $30 bucks or so.

There will be tons of trailer dealers along the way that will carry the rims - WHY NEW RIMS? Are they thay bad? New tires will be easy to find - get the seller to send you the sizes off the current set on the trailer- if very old they can be crossed matched to new sizes. Old rims can be cleaned up for the short term, most tire places can clean up the bead and seal new tires with new stems. Get high pressure stems (metal).

Tape down your vents for the tow home - keeps them on until you can check them out.

Good Luck
It still has all the original split rims on it.

It has all the original appliances, but that's all we know about the interior. Once we get there (hepa masks and trash bags in tow...) to pick it up, we'll have a better idea of what is salvageable and what isn't (we'll let you know, Rob).

This is going to be the "take the budding bagpiper to his competitions-mobile", and he's already pushing 5'6'' at 12, so we definitely have to take growing teenager who eats and wears funny clothing into account when we draw up the final plan.


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Old 11-02-2006, 12:50 PM   #11
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When you getting her?

Now that I have gone back to my side shots on the SOTR, I think you might have a 58 SOTR there too! The 4 large windows up front is a give away. Colin has a 57 SOTR, and his is 13 panel, and in 58, mine is not... transition year. I am really curious to see if you have bunks? Mine had the same electrical box added - too funny.

Lights - www.harborfreight.com carries them too! Even if magnetic ones are used, use some aluminum tape on them as the magnets are not always fool proof and could come off. Bring the aluminum tape with you to tape things down (nothing works better) and some rope to rope the door closed while going down the road.

What did you eventually get the old thing for? We all want to know!!! If you are going to restore it, why not get the rims you want up front.. save soe $$$ in the long run! Try these out....

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...tegoryId=36662

Split rims - I have a guy up the road that works on those, but you probably won't find anyone - good luck on that.

Where are you towing it too? We are going to have a SOTR reunion at Bozeman, Montana in July 08 at the International - you'd better get working on it now! Keep in touch!
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I was looking at that.. it is a 57/58 Overlander I believe. This one was listed as a 57 on the VAC classifieds for $2500 - what I paid for mine. I am very interested to see the interior of this trailer. If it was closer - it would be in my yard!

I would love to know the Serial number. It might have 14.5 inch tires on it. Let us know as the picture they sent me, I can not make out the tag by the door under the window.

What are your plans on it. If you are parting things, can I have first dibs for parts?

Thanks,

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Rob,

That's the one -- I assumed it was a Overlander, might be still, but it sure resembles the SOR on VA, which my wife ferreted out while trying to figure out the floor plan. I'm buying it based off how good the skin looks, no plans for the interior till I see how things look - reportedly it has the original appliances all in it. If it's in bad shape I'll gut it and start over, may be some parts available.

Also talked to the guy who moved it, said he got under it and the frame looked OK -- we'll see...

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WHY NEW RIMS? Are they thay bad?
Michael,

Thanks for all the pointers - new rims because it reportly has split rims on it, which I've alway heard should be replaced -- am I wrong?

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That is mine

The SOTR on the VA site is mine.. that is me standing in the pictures. The frame will no doubt need work right where it goes into the trailer as the box frame was open and water over the years has thinned the metal there. Also, expect some frame issues in the rear. When gutting it, if that is the route you go, be careful (I need a curb side bunk) and some ceiling lights. But I'd love to see the interior shots too! Email me at robandzoe@adelphia and I will send you some 58 Overlander (single axle) interior shots from a friend that lives close by. I bet you're excited!
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Thanks for all the pointers - new rims because it reportly has split rims on it, which I've alway heard should be replaced -- am I wrong?

Sean
No, you're right - get rid of the split rims - nobody I know will work on them. You may save them for nostalga sake - can't imagine why, I have a garage full of nostalga (my wife calls it junk). Any trailer supply place will have them - I got mine locally for about $29 bucks - 2800 lbs rated. Mine is a single axle - Rob is right - now is the time to get the rims you want - invest in some good ones - I went OEM but the AL ones are nicer.

Check your brakes, you may need to rewire the plug - bring a meter and some tape and some wireties, and some tools, and some flashlights, and some work clothes, and some breakfree (lug nuts), and some whatever - JUST BRING IT ALL. Have fun - Good luck
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