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Old 08-08-2007, 12:40 PM   #101
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Neat project. Can't wait to see it all coming together. Keep us posted on your new baby girl.

Love the vintage look of the awning you bought. Can't wait to see it deployed. Those colors are great...very relaxing and cozy. Good job.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:43 AM   #102
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Okay...so we made a huge decision this this weekend...we have been peeling layers of the onion over here...

There is (was) "soft, crumbling wood (splinters!) at the first 12-18" in both the front and back. No biggie...so we removed 4' in back to get to a cross member and 3' in front in prep to put in new marine grade plywood patches. Then we noticed the step is loose (not sure of the fix yet - but certain it needs to be accessed) and the floor could use a little epoxy there and back by the service panel. We also want to straighten out a couple of the buggered banana wraps which means either removing the floor or the one piece belly pan/banana wraps which also means taking out all the rivets that hold the shell to the frame. Since we don't want to, or need to do a shell off floor replacement "just for the heck of it" - the frame is in GREAT SHAPE no rust or damage, we are going to replace the entire floor as a "shell on" and leave the belly in place!

On the plus side - I'll be able to strip the lower panels of the faux-finsh paint horizontally in my garage rather than vertically in place...and the VAT tiles which are a b***h to remove - they are stuck on really good - will be going to the dumpster with the plywood and I won't have to deal with them! Oh joy!

Still looking for more positives on this one...wish us luck.

I'll post pics later this evening ~

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Old 08-26-2007, 11:07 AM   #103
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Still looking for more positives on this one...wish us luck. Shari
It'll be a clean sweep and a solid new floor throughout which will last your lifetimes and perhaps beyond ... that's a positive! Oh, and the Fat Tires and Brats this weekend were certainly positive. If these don't work for you, try the large terminal on the battery.
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:53 PM   #104
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Good for you Shari. You guys can do it the way you are most comfortable and the end results will reflect your commitment to doing it right. Looking forward to pictures documenting what you are doing. My buddy may decide to go this route with his trailer in a few months when we get started on it so I'll be following along closely.

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Old 08-26-2007, 09:59 PM   #105
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So, you wanna see what held our frame & floor together???? Plus about 20 elevator bolts....at the cross members.

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Of course...we didn't get as far as we hoped for today - so what's new! But we did get all the lower interior panels taken out. We had one small surprise...the support members for the table were both completely broken...so, discovering that was worth taking the panels off. We wondered why there were so many rivets in that area...now we know, the PO must have kept trying to stablize the table when it was in actuality only attached to the inner skin! Due to the number of holes in the skin, I think we are going to replace it...it's 3'x12', but it's the main panel you see under the windows - all the black spots are holes that had rivets in them. With the faux-finsih sponge paint, they were kinda hidden. Not now...

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Old 08-26-2007, 10:21 PM   #107
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All the insulation is in GREAT shape for being 50+ years old...NO evidence of mice anywhere! The only place it is even dirty is where there was some sort of utility connection to the outside. Although, we are going to put in new insulation rather than store the old stuff for the duration...it'll get dirtier sitting in our garage for a couple of weeks! I'm also surprised at how shiney the inside of the panels are...

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Nice fluffy puffy, downy soft fiberglass insulation there. Looks like it would serve another 50 years ... and its original! But its your choice, courtesy of H2.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:49 PM   #109
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Here is the biggest "issue" so far...

We knew the rear end had been dragged - probably from going over deep or steep dirt roads. The rear banana wrap was worn through which was evident from the outside. The PO had also installed some drag wheels to the bumper to try & aleviate the problem. However, the damage was already done. While the frame is almost perfect - no rust, just some light surface discoloration...the last cross member will need to be replaced - it's pretty mangled & the banana wrap is cut through below the rear access panel. This was the source for the water getting in to rot the floor back there. Structurally, the frame is uneffected - but the cross member will be easier to replace than to bang into shape & reinforce. The wrap will be pieced in - we are leaving the belly pan intact as I mentioned earlier. The light in the inside picture is coming through the peeled back wrap.

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Nice fluffy puffy, downy soft fiberglass insulation there. Looks like it would serve another 50 years ... and its original! But its your choice, courtesy of H2.
Thanks H2...but I really don't want to store it and have to remember which piece goes where until it goes back in...we'll be getting new "fluffy puffy". Trash day is Tuesday if you want it, let me know before then ~

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Old 09-05-2007, 05:38 AM   #113
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You are making great progress so far!

Good find on the vintage awning! Have you finalized your plans for the interior layout yet? My '54 Flying Cloud has the same interior layout (with kitchen in the front and side dinette) except we have twin beds in the rear instead of the double bed.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:57 AM   #115
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i love the flying cloud! beautiful. ONE of these days i'll get my 4th... convincing the misses on a second trailer was easy, the third took some work... i haven't figured out my approach for the 4th request yet... maybe if i move into it? ha!

seriously, though 13 panels have always been my fav! good progress on a great trailer!

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You are making great progress so far!

Good find on the vintage awning! Have you finalized your plans for the interior layout yet? My '54 Flying Cloud has the same interior layout (with kitchen in the front and side dinette) except we have twin beds in the rear instead of the double bed.
Thanks!

While peeling back the layers of the onion, we discovered that Birdy originally did have twins. The double layout she had when we got her was obviously retrofit. We found attchement holes and marks on the floor from twins. So we will be restoring to the original twins configuration.

We feel we are very close to the end of the destruction stage...just about ready to start moving forward instead of backwards.

The only remaining demo is to strip the paint from the upper half of the interior. Then we start reassembling from the floor up and other ammenities can be addressed.

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Do you plan on doing anything with the "beauty mark" on the aft street side lower panel while you have everything opened up?

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Beauty Mark...

Yes, we are going to try and work it out from the inside. We have some auto body forms that should work being we can get to both sides.

Also, we will most likely be replacing the entire 3'x12' streetside panel - both inside (post #108) & out. Why? Outside there are several rough holes that were cut for water, electrical, antennas, ??? that we don't need or want, as well as a couple of scratches that will be difficult to buff out. If we replace the panel they will be gone and polishing will be much easier and no fake "access panels" or patches will be required - if not, they will "bug us" - so, if not now...when? While the interior is out, we will be able to use bucked rivets if we were to do it later, they will have to be olympics. The cost of the aluminum is not an issue - it's <$250. It's just that everything is apart and accessible - now, so with all we are doing I think we will regret not doing this if we don't.

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It's just that everything is apart and accessible - now, so with all we are doing I think we will regret not doing this if we don't.
That's what I said with my 18 footer... ended up replacing every single panel except the end caps! ha!

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