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Old 06-14-2009, 10:01 PM   #379
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Excellent work Shari...envious here.

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Old 06-15-2009, 08:52 PM   #380
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Is that the plumbing vent I see at the top of this photo going into the outer wall?
If so, did you just route a rubber tube between the skins up to that little eyebrow vent you posted earlier? If so, how did you terminate the vent pipe under the eyebrow? is there a 90 degree fitting there? Is it sealed to the outer skin somehow to prevent leaks? Any closeup photos of that area?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:52 PM   #381
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I,m guessing that it is the fresh water fill line.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:05 PM   #382
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Actually, if you look back thru the photos in this thread, the fresh water fill can be seen behind the axle in one of them. This is because the water tank on '56 Safari's, like Shari's, is under the streetside bed at the rear of the trailer. I believe the photo I am questioning is under the front dinette bench (which incidentally IS the location of the water tank in '54 & '55 Safari's like mine). There is no tank under the dinette in this photo, but the pipe going thru the floor is to one of the "below the floor" gray water tanks Shari and Rob added to their Safari. I can think of no reason other than the plumbing vent for a pipe going into the wall under the dinette. I may be wrong, but I don't think so. I am just looking for confirmation.

I am asking mainly because I will be adding Black and Gray tanks to my '55 Safari during it's restoration. It currently has no plumbking vent, so I will have to add one and routing it inside the outer wall would be a good way to keep it "invisible".
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:27 PM   #383
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I went back in the post and yep it looks gray.
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:50 AM   #384
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Joe's right...it is the 1" air vent for the small grey tank under the dinette and it does go into the the outer wall. The other vent you are thinking of - the one that vents to the roof under that little eyebrow cap is for the black & the second, larger grey tank which runs up the wall in the bathroom. It's in the corner, in front of the window frame. The two vents are not connected. This vent is just a air relief vent to allow the tank to fill and the bathroom sink/shower to drain, because of the height & bends in it, there is no water that can go up & out. Make sense? I can take more pics tomorrow ~

The first photo in post #378 shows the gravity fill location into the fresh water tank which is behind the wheel well under the streetside bed. It's on the left. The city water connection is on the right (with all the SB fittings & the pressure gauge). The red & blue valves towards the back, as well as the small brass one at the "T" in the lines in the front, can be switched to use either city or the pumped tank water and to drain the tank. The fresh water tank vents through the 1/2" tube at the front top of the tank.

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Old 06-16-2009, 06:48 AM   #385
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Shari,
The workmanship & attention to detail is beyond reproach!
I really love the color of the birch cabnets and I admire your preserverance.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:24 PM   #386
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Hi Shari,
I just ready your thread start to finish. My brother, Brad (FlyFshr). suggested I read it as I have just recently bought a 55 or 56 (unsure) Flying Cloud and he knew that I would encounter many of the same challenges. I was especially interested in how you were able to add black above and gray below the floor but still within the belly skin. You certainly do quality work and I have enjoyed your progress. Cheers.

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Old 07-05-2009, 12:54 AM   #387
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...It currently has no plumbking vent, so I will have to add one and routing it inside the outer wall would be a good way to keep it "invisible".
I had to "hide" a vent in my Ovelander when I moved one of the walls. Instead of putting it inside the shell, I "thermo-formed" the pvc pipe to fit exactly the wall curve, then put a 90 degree fitting at the top to go out through the original vent opening. It takes 10-15 minutes with a propane torch to get the PVC flexible enough, then you can bend it to fit (pulling on it a little as you bend it to prevent wrinkles on the inside radius). You have to keep the torce moving constantly along the intended bend length and around the circumference, to prevent browning the surface.

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Old 07-05-2009, 10:30 AM   #388
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Hi Shari,
I just ready your thread start to finish. My brother, Brad (FlyFshr). suggested I read it as I have just recently bought a 55 or 56 (unsure) Flying Cloud and he knew that I would encounter many of the same challenges. I was especially interested in how you were able to add black above and gray below the floor but still within the belly skin. You certainly do quality work and I have enjoyed your progress. Cheers.

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Congrats on the new trailer Barry! Glad our experience can give you some insight...let me know if you have any specific questions I can help you out with...but with Brad at your side (even long-distance), you probably won't need much more help - but I'm here if you need something.

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Old 07-06-2009, 06:51 AM   #389
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Following this thread, there can't be many (if any) questions you couldn't answere. And yes, I pick Brad's brain on a regular basis! Cheers.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:39 AM   #390
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WooHooo! We had a very productive long weekend! We finished up a bunch of loose ends...
  • Gas lines are installed & tested - except to the heater which is next
  • Propane tanks are mounted
  • Twin Temp Jr. insta-heat water heater is installed and tested
  • Kitchen plumbing is done...all plumbing is 100%
  • All waste lines are completly installed
  • Kitchen light is installed
  • Fridge is cleaned painted tested & installed...works perfectly on gas, still trouble shooting electric
  • Kitchen cabinets are 100% complete...including countertops
  • Lower cabinet doors are installed
  • Upper cabinet sliders are in (we went with 3-Form panels)...LOVE 'em!
  • Closet is roughed in - just need to screw everything down
  • Bathroom door is sanded & finished with two coats...couple more to go
This week we'll get the closet installed and next weekend I will start the curtains & dinette cushions....I hope to have them done for the RMVAC Rally August 6th!

We took some pictures of our progress that I'll post tonight ~ the end is (finally) in sight...the beds, closet doors & electric "final connections (which go under the bed) are just about all that's left interior-wise, then it will be polish-time!

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Old 07-07-2009, 01:52 AM   #391
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Below are a couple of pics of the Temp Temp Jr installation. We wanted to maximize the storage under the kitchen sink and yet still have the water heater there. So we built a slide out shelf that can be locked in place in the corner, yet when it slides out we can access all the connections behind it and remove the W/H if necessary. The two main reasons we decided to go with the insta-hot W/H are:
  • 1) we didn't want the extra weight of the water in the tank up front on the tongue
  • 2) we didn't want to have another big access panel on the side of the trailer - the Twin Temp vents through the floor

It's a tight fit - but it works great - hot water (as much as we want with hook-ups) close to the source...aaahhh!

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Old 07-07-2009, 02:09 AM   #392
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Here's some more of the kitchen, appliances, translucent 3-form slider doors and the overall status...

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