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01-13-2009, 12:59 PM
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#281
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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Damn fine work!
I am particularly proud that you elected to buy all this gear for "other" projects...
Aerowood
Bedfords
23333
and Me!
We're all real real close...
Zep
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01-13-2009, 01:16 PM
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#282
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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That's a WIIFM if I ever heard one!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
Damn fine work!
I am particularly proud that you elected to buy all this gear for "other" projects...
Aerowood
Bedfords
23333
and Me!
We're all real real close...
Zep
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Uhhhh, well...I think you may have to make a deal with the Mr. for " those" other projects!!! Nice try though ~
Shari
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01-13-2009, 02:30 PM
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#283
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Uhhhh, well...I think you may have to make a deal with the Mr. for " those" other projects!!! Nice try though ~
Shari
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Looks to me like an intriguing business opportunity.
The zolatone looks amazing, you guys are really doing a fantastic job!
-Marcus
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01-13-2009, 03:19 PM
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#284
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
The zolatone looks amazing, you guys are really doing a fantastic job!
-Marcus
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I'd have to agree. It really looks GREAT!
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01-13-2009, 09:21 PM
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#285
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Being the impatient souls that we are...we left work early, went and picked up our 2 quarts of Apollo Gray and came home to finish up the Zolatone project! No new pictures today...but I do have "the list".
Things we already had- Cloth drop cloth for the garage floor
- one electric heater
- two propane heaters
- (2) 5 gal. Mixing Buckets
- "We can do it" attitude
Tools & Equipment - Husky single stage 3-1/2 HP 60 gallon 135 psi - $250 used
- 2mm (Zolatone) Spray Gun w/2L pressure pot & hoses - $65 ebay
- 1.7mm (Primer) Spray Gun (works with the same pressure pot) - $15 Harbor Freight
- Box Fan & A/C Filter - $20 WalMart
- Electric Heater - $15 Home Depot
Sub-Total = $365
Materials- Epoxy Primer - 1 gal. - $81
- Epoxy Hardender - 2 qts. $32
- Zolatone - 2 gal. Desert Camo - $232
- Zolatone - 1 gal. Gray Stone - $116
- Zolatone - 4 qts. Medusa Gray - $154
- Zolatone - 2 qts. Apollo Gray - $77
- Respirator - $19
- Coveralls - $8
- Spray Sock - $2
- Dropcolths - $4
- Mixing/Measuring Cups - $2
- Solvent - $14
- Spray Gun Filters - $7
- 4 rolls 3M Green Masking Tape - $21
- Spray Gun CLeaning Kit - $11
- Rosen Paper - $15
Sub-Total = $830
TOTAL = $1204
Aesthetic Cost > Priceless!
We'll take a look tomorrow after it dries and probably do a little touch-up...then we're done! We got the lighter color and large "white" flecks we were looking for by adding the Apollo Grey. The splatter coat went on thicker - we ended up with about 3/4 gal. left over...our estimating wasn't too far off - if we hadn't have added the extra two quarts today, we would have finished with only 1 quart - which I don't think is enough "just in case" we forgot something.
Shari
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01-13-2009, 09:40 PM
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#286
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
1957 22' Custom
1963 16' Bambi
Vacationland
, Maine
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 956
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A Toast to your fine work!
Major step in the process. You are doing it right for sure. Thanks for the photos and info. along the way.
If this was my project it would call for a celebratory toast to the work you have done so far. So here is a toast to your fine work! AH!!! that's some fine Champagne.........
Now back to work. No time to be admiring your labors.
But really...great job so far. (just looking at the window work wears me out)
gary
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01-13-2009, 10:30 PM
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#287
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
, BC
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,790
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It sure does look good Shari. I expect we'll be seeing this one out and about this summer?
The only problem with finishing a project is that then you need another one and there is only so much room to store them for most of us.
I guess what I struggle with is the shiny thing. Mine looks like a batchelors bathroom mirror no matter what I do to shine it up. Yours look like a mirror. Oh well.........
Barry
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Barry & Donna
Life is short - so is the door on a '51 Flying Cloud (ouch)
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01-14-2009, 12:19 AM
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#288
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Thanks!
That's the goal Barry! We plan to take Birdy to Madison International and also to the Oshkosh Air Show June/July 2009...we still have LOTS of work to do though ~
I'm embarrassed to say, Maxwell's polish job has taken a back seat since we've been working on Birdy...not nearly as shiny right now. As far as the next project goes, we have a list of mini-projects for Maxwell to keep us busy...it's been 7 years since we started Maxwell - time to address the items we didn't do then. New black tank, new toilet, change out the old Univolt to an IntellePower, new axle, switch out the smoke-plexi Fantastic Fan for a newer gray one, possibly replace another panel or two (small dents - but they bug us), re-polish...I think that's about it - enough to keep us busy so we won't be needing any more trailers - maintaining 2 will be enough! Some of those projects seemed overwhelming then - now, not so much!
Besides, I promised...the next "new project" will be in a hanger, not at home ~
Shari
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01-14-2009, 08:54 AM
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#289
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Wow! That's some great work Shari! Thanks for sharing the nitty gritty with us. So, looking for a "hanger" queen are you? There's some nice aluminum vintage jobs out there too!
Marc
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01-14-2009, 12:04 PM
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#290
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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I went out this morning and took a picture...it was still kinda dark and the masking is still over the windows, but this is what it looks like. I've also included a scan of the old & new colors side by side. The old one is kinda cold & flat with a green tinge and the new is warmer with more depth.
Shari
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01-14-2009, 08:47 PM
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#291
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Wow...colors sure look different on different computers! It was pretty accurate at work - but way off at home. The actual color is like the beach sand I grew up on in So Cal it's a lot more beige than gray and a lot lighter than it looks in the photos ~ oh well, you'll just have to take my word for it or track us down at a rally to see for yourselves!
Shari
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01-15-2009, 05:25 AM
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#292
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Yeah the colors are way off on my computer, too. The trailer inside looks good, but the new "sample" piece (must be a cover plate of some type because of the rivet holes), appears 10x darker than "before" and nothing like the trailer interior photo. If the interior shot is the correct color, it will be great.
Good Work!
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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01-15-2009, 07:06 AM
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#293
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Great looking (and huge!) job Mssr & Mme Inside Out!! It will be fun seeing comparison objects against your final job. Penguin time... Without correction, automatic camera exposure will turn both a dark object and a field of snow to 18% gray value.
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01-15-2009, 07:54 AM
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#294
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 66Overlander
Yeah the colors are way off on my computer, too. The trailer inside looks good, but the new "sample" piece (must be a cover plate of some type because of the rivet holes), appears 10x darker than "before" and nothing like the trailer interior photo. If the interior shot is the correct color, it will be great.
Good Work!
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The "real" color is much more like the interior shot, it is darker than the "original" but not as dark as it appears in the scan. It looks like coarse beach sand in real life.
Good guess Joe! It's a cover plate for the access to the truck wiring harness - it's up front under the kitchen cabinet so the PO had never gotten to it with her sponge painting. I wanted to keep a sample of the old, so we made a new coverplate to use instead.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CanoeStream
Great looking (and huge!) job Mssr & Mme Inside Out!! It will be fun seeing comparison objects against your final job. Penguin time... Without correction, automatic camera exposure will turn both a dark object and a field of snow to 18% gray value.
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I know photo variations occur, but it's disappointing not being able to portray the true feel of the color. I scanned the coverplates at work, and took pains to get the colors "right" there and then they are so different at home and I assume on everybody else's computer - who knows what you all are seeing! Oh well...
We stripped off all the masking last night and I've got a late meeting this morning, so I'll be home in the daylight (for a change!) and be able to take some more pics...otherwise, it'll be about two weeks before I get another chance - I leave town Friday for 10 days.
Shari
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01-15-2009, 08:02 AM
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#295
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,478
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Shari & Rob,
Nice work~
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NEU #64
New England Unit
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01-19-2009, 04:26 PM
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#296
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Rivet Master
1968 30' Sovereign
1959 18' "Footer"
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Brussels
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 615
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You would do a great job on my 54
I'm going home and gutting the 54 and sending it to CO! That job is so cool, what a great job. So let's talk about a paint job!
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I'm NOT an old man.............
Ed
54 Flying Cloud
59 Traveler
68 Sovereign
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01-22-2009, 09:10 PM
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#297
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Rivet Master
1954 25' Cruiser
Kyle
, The Republic of Texas
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 612
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Shari - Can you tell me something about the window screen you used? Some have told me to look for aluminum screen material. Well, can't find it, at least locally. Did you use regualr galvanized screen?
Ya'll do beautiful work, and your descriptions, or "how to's" are very helpful. Thanks for posting.
Jim
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01-22-2009, 09:17 PM
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#298
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitsend
Shari - Can you tell me something about the window screen you used? Some have told me to look for aluminum screen material. Well, can't find it, at least locally. Did you use regualr galvanized screen?
Ya'll do beautiful work, and your descriptions, or "how to's" are very helpful. Thanks for posting.
Jim
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Jim,
You need to use a galvanized screen, not the aluminum type available at the local home center or hardware store. I purchased screen for my Liner at a local glass and screen store. Vintage Trailer Supply now has it available also. Galvanized Steel Window Screen
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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01-22-2009, 10:30 PM
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#299
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Thanks for your kind words Jim!
I agree with Bill, I think you have it backwards. Aluminum screen is pretty readily available - galvanized is more difficult to come by. It's the used is what you need to use in the 50's Hehr windows. The aluminum is not strong enough to hold the crimp to stay in the frame. There isn't anything else that holds it in, just the screen itself. We were able to find the galvanized screen at our mom & pop hardware store before when VTS carried it - but it would have been a lot easier to have just ordered it - we ran all over town before we found it, big box stores only had aluminum & fiberglass.
Shari
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02-04-2009, 04:11 PM
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#300
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Now that the Zolatone is done, I've ordered our linoleum. It will be installed next week...we decided to go with Marmoleum's "Artoleum" Mineral - Color: Tiger Eye #5713. It'll blend really well with the Zolatone and all the wood cabinets.
In the meantime, we are going to be starting the cabinet work this weekend. We will be re-building the dinette, building the twin beds from scratch based on the "hacked up twins turned double" that were there and re-veneering most of the cabinet doors to get rid of the white paint and water stain remnants. Then re-finishing everything to match the original birch interior as close as we can.
I'll take pics as we get into it and along the way - stay tuned!
Shari
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