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Old 01-10-2009, 07:31 AM   #15
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Mistral Blue PMed me... he wants photos and he wants them now. These were lifted from Rob's blog...

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Old 01-10-2009, 08:03 AM   #16
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I can't wait to see that stove put back in action.

Question: Does anyone know the rationale/history behind the use of suicide doors? (I don't mean to hijack this thread. Mods/Shari, please get rid of this if you think it doesn't work here.)
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:58 PM   #17
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Question: Does anyone know the rationale/history behind the use of suicide doors? (I don't mean to hijack this thread. Mods/Shari, please get rid of this if you think it doesn't work here.)
I don't know their rationale, but I know the non-suicide door can not open all the way on a lot of trailers with awnings. The awning arm would be mounted right at the rib next to the door allowing the door to only open 90* - that's why we have a rope & pole awning on our '64 it has a non-suicide door.

If our Safari didn't have a suicide door, it would block the vents for the gas fridge.

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P.S. I'm no longer a MOD so I can't split this thread ~ Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:49 AM   #18
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One of my friends asked for more pictures of the Safari. There's not a lot to show since the interior is so rough. The front window where the a/c is now mounted will be a challenge. I am hoping to find a donor window for that spot soon. Enjoy...
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Hey 62 Overlander and Silverhobby, Looks like with the pictures of your two units, you almost have a complete restoration example to go by.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:39 AM   #20
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Shari, the front kitchen must have been toyed with in 1952/53. Look at this clipper eBay Motors: 1953 AIRSTREAM CLIPPER 17’ - 56 YEAR Old Classic (item 160311411427 end time Jan-31-09 14:47:35 PST) it is a front kitchen /head too.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:16 AM   #21
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Look at adjacent windows . . .

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Question: Does anyone know the rationale/history behind the use of suicide doors?
Generally, suicide [rear-hinged] doors they were used when there was a window installed immediately forward of the door. Note two of the three Safaris shown in this thread have rear hinged doors. But early-production Safari Luna's door is hinged to open forward, so even the smaller door-within-a-door will block the small kitchen side window from opening when it is latched fast against the trailer. The rear hinges allow both the door and the adjacent forward window to be opened at the same time.

Besides some early production models, on which things are often still being worked out, a few exceptions to this rule include some 1940s Liners, where the curb side had windows both forward and aft of the door. In those cases, the door often had forward mounted hinges because it would have blocked an adjacent window from opening whether the door opened forward or rearward.

Rob and Shari: Superb work on the Zolotone! Can't wait to see it in person.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:12 AM   #22
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How could anyone ask for a better explanation? Thank you Fred.

Any chance you can make it to the WDCU Cherry Blossom Rally this year?
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Very interesting Frank, I'm on the rpad and only have my iPhone right now, I'll have to check out the bigger pics later. Thanks for posting it though...cool!

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What a beauty Rick. Do you have any interior pics yet? I'm in the process of adding a grey tank to my 56 now, just above the axle.
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Shari, we are the proud owners of a 1956 22 ft Safari, Serial number 6319. We purchased it from Steve Butcher, Funkyjunkfarms.com in LA two yrs ago and have been enjoying it ever since. We have traced its history from the Shady Dell in Az to CO to CA and now it resides in WA state.
We are preparing to some renovations in the next yr or so. Make the Dinette more rounded and allow the refrigerator door to fully open and to do something with the two beds in the back. Nothing firm there yet, we are looking for ideas. We have a Park Model so we have no holding or fresh water tanks, just the original Heater under one bunk.
We are open to any other ideas about reworking or restoring this classic baby of ours.
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Add us to your list of front kitchen/bath 1956 Airstream Safari's. We just bought ours from a couple in Arizona last week. It's number 6317 and the prior owner had purchased it from the McAfee (computer software guru) auction last year as it was used as one of his guest houses on his estate prior to his financial troubles. It's in good condition but still needs a few little additions to make it more self contained for our travels. Dave & Lee, Brevard, North Carolina
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There is a '55 front kitchen Safari for sale on Helena, MT, Craigs List. $3,000, looks to be used as a hunters trailer at the moment.
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are the front kitchen modles worth more? im looking at a 56 right now for 5g that is actually being lived in at the moment so it is in decent shape
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The value should be based on more than just the floor plan - the condition of the entire trailer should be considered. I guess there is some "value" in the fact that this layout was only made three years - but there are other floor plans that were made only one year (Bambi II in '64, the 16' Pacer in '60, etc) or a couple of years too. So no.

Check out this Price vs Condition information to get a better idea of what does affect the value.

I would be interested in seeing pictures and/or learning more about this trailer though...for my list. Any info you can share would be helpful. Good luck if you decide to purchase it...we love ours!

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