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Old 01-09-2009, 07:59 PM   #1
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:03 AM   #2
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I can't wait to see that stove put back in action.

Question: Does anyone know the rationale/history behind the use of suicide doors? (I don't mean to hijack this thread. Mods/Shari, please get rid of this if you think it doesn't work here.)
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:58 PM   #3
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Question: Does anyone know the rationale/history behind the use of suicide doors? (I don't mean to hijack this thread. Mods/Shari, please get rid of this if you think it doesn't work here.)
I don't know their rationale, but I know the non-suicide door can not open all the way on a lot of trailers with awnings. The awning arm would be mounted right at the rib next to the door allowing the door to only open 90* - that's why we have a rope & pole awning on our '64 it has a non-suicide door.

If our Safari didn't have a suicide door, it would block the vents for the gas fridge.

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P.S. I'm no longer a MOD so I can't split this thread ~ Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:49 AM   #4
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One of my friends asked for more pictures of the Safari. There's not a lot to show since the interior is so rough. The front window where the a/c is now mounted will be a challenge. I am hoping to find a donor window for that spot soon. Enjoy...
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:16 AM   #5
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Look at adjacent windows . . .

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Question: Does anyone know the rationale/history behind the use of suicide doors?
Generally, suicide [rear-hinged] doors they were used when there was a window installed immediately forward of the door. Note two of the three Safaris shown in this thread have rear hinged doors. But early-production Safari Luna's door is hinged to open forward, so even the smaller door-within-a-door will block the small kitchen side window from opening when it is latched fast against the trailer. The rear hinges allow both the door and the adjacent forward window to be opened at the same time.

Besides some early production models, on which things are often still being worked out, a few exceptions to this rule include some 1940s Liners, where the curb side had windows both forward and aft of the door. In those cases, the door often had forward mounted hinges because it would have blocked an adjacent window from opening whether the door opened forward or rearward.

Rob and Shari: Superb work on the Zolotone! Can't wait to see it in person.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:12 PM   #6
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How could anyone ask for a better explanation? Thank you Fred.

Any chance you can make it to the WDCU Cherry Blossom Rally this year?
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:31 PM   #7
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Hey 62 Overlander and Silverhobby, Looks like with the pictures of your two units, you almost have a complete restoration example to go by.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:39 AM   #8
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Shari, the front kitchen must have been toyed with in 1952/53. Look at this clipper eBay Motors: 1953 AIRSTREAM CLIPPER 17’ - 56 YEAR Old Classic (item 160311411427 end time Jan-31-09 14:47:35 PST) it is a front kitchen /head too.
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:24 PM   #9
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Very interesting Frank, I'm on the rpad and only have my iPhone right now, I'll have to check out the bigger pics later. Thanks for posting it though...cool!

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