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Old 12-15-2017, 05:17 AM   #253
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Looks great! So you used the black bar from Caswell? What is in the spray bottle? Congratulations!
I use the black and brown bar most of the time. The brown gets through the oxidation, and the black shines fastest. For less aggressive applications I usually just use a softer wheel. The bottle is just mineral spirits to clean up.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:57 PM   #254
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Rear Accessories

Took a little time to install the license plate holder and the tail lights.

Anything that can be riveted, gets riveted.

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Old 01-18-2018, 09:26 PM   #255
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More drip caps and my vintage license plate cleanup

The last couple drip caps.

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It took some time, but I also finally found a proper vintage license plate. But it was in pretty rough shape.

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Old 01-19-2018, 06:32 AM   #257
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I support both, but hopefully not quite in that order!
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Old 01-21-2018, 02:06 PM   #258
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12V Initial Plan

Some of you may realize it but I am a lazy poster of progress. Most of my stuff is about 5-6 months behind. I am slow in the process and slower on the posting. However, these next few electrical plan posts are hot off the production line. I am ready to start wiring, but unfortunately, my total practical knowledge of electrical wiring could fit into a thimble. Oh, I am indeed familiar with the principles of circuits, polarity, resistance, voltage, amperage, etc., but the gulf between that limited abstract knowledge and practical knowledge may as well be the Grand Canyon. I have been reading a few books including Mueller’s RV Electrical Systems and others.

In the spirit of just cracking on and muddling through figuring all this out, I have tried to capture some of what I have learned and what I have been able to scour from the interwebs and put them into an initial plan. One thing I find interesting about that web search is that a lot of people are searching for wiring diagrams for Airstreams. Two things happen: 1) they find one of the scanned versions that Airstream used to put in some of their manuals in the 60s and 70s, or 2) they put in an initial version for feedback and never update it with the final version.

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My hope is that some generous souls with the right knowledge will help steer me to a good plan. My plan is then to use that to run wire myself based upon that plan, and then use a master electrician acquaintance to check everything and do the final hook ups, ensuring it is to code, etc.

Some questions and notes:

1) Need to know if I am missing anything for items to plan for, loads-wise. I am planning on dropping in a few spare lines, but these are not shown.

2) I don’t have a clue on fuses, breakers, shunts and the like outside of the panel boxes. Need to know where and what to put in additional to the stuff shown.

3) Need to know where else I will need to put in dedicated grounds, and whether these need to go to the chassis or the shell/frame.

4) Ultimately, I need to figure out where every single piece of wiring goes. Which circuits need to come back to a negative bus bar (which is connected to the negative terminal on the battery, but not shown) and which can simply go to ground?

5) The solar and inverter will not be installed right away, but I do want to have all the runs in place.

6) I am adding some 12V outlets in addition to the 110V ones shown, although I am not entirely sure how many total yet for each.

7) I am also adding some additional LED lighting strips under the counter edges and along the floor for accent lighting or night-time assistance. There will also be one, or a hookup for one under the belly of the trailer. My wife thinks these are cool, so…they are cool.

8) I would also like to wire the trailer up front to allow me to run shore power to the running and tail lights with the flip of a switch.

9) The batteries and panels will be under the seats up front, with dividers in as necessary to keep things separated. The solar controller and some of the control switches and monitors will be under the seats up front on the other side as well.

10) I don’t know if I need both a dedicated surge protector and an autoformer, but I have had a number of close calls with my 2012, and definitely want an autoformer up front. That said, they are expensive, and I would rather have and electrical issue kill a fuse or the less expensive surge protector rather than the autoformer.

11) Need to know what type of wire to buy, and whether it is worth it to go for more expensive marine, tinned, wet resistant, etc. I plan at this point for the 12V system is just to buy a combination of 12/14 stranded auto wire with some temperature resistance, and a little 8/10 for the heavier needs, in addition to short lengths of heavy cable where needed. Can I use the same wire for the 110V stuff? I bought some solid Romex and one point and I really don’t want to fight it.

12) For connections, I was planning on using the little crimped end connects where it was easier than going directly from the strand. I am going to avoid any other splicing, but will use shrink tube if absolutely necessary. If there are better options, I am open to them.

So there you go dear readers, thanks in advance for the help.
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Old 01-23-2018, 08:00 PM   #259
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Bump, perhaps should have posted on the dedicated forum for electrical questions?
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I'm zero help on anything solar related. I hate dealing with chassis ground on inside stuff (with cabinets, fiberglass end caps in newer stuff etc) so when I rewire I run dedicated grounds for everything and terminate them back at the fuse panel together.

I took the cue from a tin-can tourist post years back and I use the low voltage landscape wire. It's extremely UV resistant, has a very thick insulation that I don't worry about damaging during install nearly as much, and is stranded copper and pretty reasonably priced. The only drawback is that both wires are black, but one has a ribbed profile and I keep a roll of color coded electrical tape to mark my grounds to keep everything happy during install and down the road for repairs.

Heat shrink is great for helping keep connections tight and keeping moisture out.
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Old 01-24-2018, 07:55 AM   #261
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Matt, we are starting our master re-wire plan on our 55. The detailed drawings you posted blurr when they’re enlarged and become unreadable. From what I can see:
I did notice several GFCI receptacles on the same circuit. The down stream receptacles are protected by the first one. Also, heavier loads like the AC and microwave are typically put on dedicated circuits as well as the fridge because you don’t want anything else to bring down the fridge.
Your 55 is looking great. Keep it up. Bubba
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Matt,

Since you have a blank slate to work with and you are installing solar, I highly recommend you talk to the folks at AmSolar. https://amsolar.com/
They can help you with the overall system design.

The load wiring is the simplest part of the process. You are building a fairly complex electrical system; component choice and sizing are critical. Below is an example of a Power Wiring Schematic I did for a project I am working on. It is more complex than your project, but it gives you an idea of what you are dealing with.

Please feel free to PM me if you wish.

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Old 01-24-2018, 10:19 PM   #263
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Gents, thanks for the feedback. I want to digest and do a little adjusting for an update. I very much appreciate it.

I will take a look at the landscape wiring as I still haven't figured out exactly which wire type to use.

I appreciate the feedback on the load wiring. As I mentioned, I don't have a clue, and will update accordingly. I also still need to figure out the connectivity between the major components (batteries/convertor/solar/etc.). Pat, I have a ways to go to follow you sketch, but I will figure it out.

With an update, I have some better ways to get it into a picture file.

Thanks again!
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Another pdf copy

Another pdf copy of the current plan.

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Updated 12V Plan

Been reading and working on the plan. It probably doesn't look like much, but am hoping this makes more sense. I had a short talk with Best Converter and ordered a converter, and an AC/DC distribution panel, and a few other elements. I still need to update how the distribution panel sets up, but will wait until I see it to finalize. Hopefully this one comes out a bit more clear.

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Old 02-10-2018, 05:21 PM   #266
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I am still looking for feedback on the electrical plan, but another update as I go. I have been rewiring my cargo trailer for some practice.

Added the front trim pieces with new replacements from VTS. The old ones were past it. In several places, I had to grind off the steel screws that held them in place originally.

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Gently worked them into position. Close but not able to match the curve. Then some measurements to get it centered.

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Originally I planned to use aluminum screws to hold it in place. Unfortunately, the aluminum screws weren't getting the job done. So... a bit of extra Trempro in the holes, and I riveted them into place. With the assistance of a rubber mallet kept it aligned and laid it flat. Easier than expected.

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