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Old 05-25-2019, 02:47 PM   #379
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Bubba and Stephanie, it was great to finally meet both of you. That is one sweet trailer you have there. It was great seeing what you've accomplished but it was also depressing coming home and seeing how far we have to go. Kinda like going to the gym and you just want to come home and eat a whole pizza.

I thought the "Free Beer next door" sign was just mean. If everyone there had one we would've just walked in circles all day.
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:41 PM   #380
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Bubba and Stephanie, it was great to finally meet both of you. That is one sweet trailer you have there. It was great seeing what you've accomplished but it was also depressing coming home and seeing how far we have to go. Kinda like going to the gym and you just want to come home and eat a whole pizza.

I thought the "Free Beer next door" sign was just mean. If everyone there had one we would've just walked in circles all day.
Thanks Gilbert. You may have a ways to go on your FC but slow and easy wins the race. You’ve got time to scrutinize what others have done so you can get yours perfect for y’all. Concerning the sign, we got more mileage out of that than what we put on the AS this trip. The lady next door was selling odds and ends with the sign pointed to us. I had to buy the sign so I could enjoy a beer without people asking me where the free beer was. And I was watching. If I had seen y’all walk by more than 10 times looking for free beer I would have offered you one. Take care.
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Old 06-04-2019, 05:07 PM   #381
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Lessons Learned (so far)

After our first big trip over some pretty bumpy roads, we came up with a list of lessons learned:

The Isotherm Freezer came with a bungee corded door. I changed that to what I thought was stainless steel piano hinge, but it rusted after one trip. I replaced the rusted hinge with a plastic piano hinge from McMaster-Carr. Other than the hinge, using the icebox conversion unit in the old Dometic M16 worked flawlessly.
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One advantage to renovating a trailer yourself is that if a screw comes loose, you probably recognize where it came from. I did find a screw and it was a stop screw from the wooden (Walter of Wabash type) slide. I put it back in with Locktite.

We found one small leak at the center Hehr vent and will have to Parbond that.

When we stopped in El Paso for the night, there was a terrific sandstorm in progress. We were thankful we had the MaXXFans that could be operated as ceiling fans since we didn't want to open the vent lids. On the downside, we have noticed that the MaXXFan lids will stick shut if they are not kept lubricated with dry silicone.

The sliding bathroom door was too heavy (2-3/8" Birch Plywood glued together); the hanging door track rollers came loose due to the weight of the door and the bouncing of the trailer. I am making a new hollow core door using 3/16" framing veneered with 3/16" birch plywood. I guesstimate it will be at least 40% lighter.

The little bathroom Hehr Standard window handle must have been in the 12 o'clock position and vibrated counterclockwise to open the window by 1/2" while traveling. I closed and tightened it so that the handle was not sitting at 12 o'clock. I was prepared to remove and rotate the handle, but it was not necessary.

The bottom latch of the door-within-a-door vibrated open. I fixed this by slightly bending the latch receiver so that it fit tighter. This still concerns me and I need to figure out a foolproof way to keep the door closed if the latches fail.

The air conditioner in heat mode works great and is quiet because the condenser unit doesn't run. However, in cooling mode on high, the noise from the outside air intake louvered vent next to the front door is high and an annoyance if sitting outside. As the AC approaches the setpoint temperature, it kicks into a lower gear and the noise becomes tolerable. If I had to do it again, I'd figure out a way to put the condenser in the belly pan away from the curbside.
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The first night at Pismo, we had a heavy rain causing our awning stakes to pull out. We found many people there used springs on their awning ropes to lessen the tension on the stakes.
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Using the same sway/weight distribution system on the '55 as was on the '66, I noticed some slight fishtailing when the wheel was turned. This did not happen on the '66. Is this indicative of too much weight in the back of the trailer or tow vehicle?

One of the biggest lessons was to bring extra cash. The following sign was displayed by our neighbor and we had to buy the sign in order to point it away from us.
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Aside from the few things we need to fix, we still need to address the bathroom. More to come...............
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:33 PM   #382
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The first big trip always finds some issues whether the trailer is vintage or new. Overall, you would have to say it has been a success so far.

I wonder how many problems I will have on my first trip in my 75 Overlander. We shall see soon.

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Old 06-05-2019, 04:07 AM   #383
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Sounds like a very successful first trip if you ask me. I'm envious.

Curious about the fish tailing. Bumper weight and weight distribution is something I have been thinking about as we add all of these new systems. Is that something you monitored during your build?

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Old 06-05-2019, 04:15 AM   #384
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Fishtailing is definitely a sign that the trailer's Center of Gravity is too far aft. Have you weighed the trailer by itself and determined the tongue weight?
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:27 AM   #385
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Sounds like a very successful first trip if you ask me. I'm envious.

Curious about the fish tailing. Bumper weight and weight distribution is something I have been thinking about as we add all of these new systems. Is that something you monitored during your build?

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Mark, we did monitor weight distribution during the build. The trailer weighs around 3500lbs with a tongue weight of about 325lbs. I think I have less than a couple hundred pounds added aft. That would be the AC air handler and the battery. I also had added a 1/4” x 4” x 4’ piece of steel at the axle and main frame to spread the point load at the axle. Maybe I’m being too critical. It trailers flawlessly and only sways slightly at the rear when I turn the steering wheel when passing or dodging road kill. When it does sway, it returns back to straight trailering position immediately. We were even in a hefty sand storm outside of El Paso and the sway bars held the trailer steady. I didn’t like the weight of the bath sliding door. I almost have the new hollow core replacement made. I’ll keep an eye on it and report back if I find something that needs correcting.
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:51 AM   #386
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If what you say is correct on the sway...then I would think that is a normal reaction. I have always noticed that while towing my boat. I would jerk the steering wheel and the trailer would kick out once and then come back in line.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:06 AM   #387
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If what you say is correct on the sway...then I would think that is a normal reaction. I have always noticed that while towing my boat. I would jerk the steering wheel and the trailer would kick out once and then come back in line.
Kent, that’s basically what’s happening. I’m no expert at towing but was hoping this is close to normal. Thanks
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:18 AM   #388
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Bathroom Flip Up Sink Ideas

I've not found a bathroom sink light enough and small enough to hang on the wall between the commode and shower. I don't know the size of the original sink, but there is very little space. There is no space in the shower to put a corner sink.
I am toying with the idea of making a flip up sink. I'd like to find a bowl with a drain hole situated towards the back so that I can install a 90 degree drain connector with a flexible hose so that the hose is against the wall when the sink is flipped up. This is not a new idea, it is similar to other flip up Pullman sink designs, but all I've seen to date are too large for my bath. I'm looking for a sink that is 3-4" deep and 10" in diameter.
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For the faucet, I am thinking about using a wall mount sprayer because when the sink is flipped up, the spigot has to fit within the confines of the bowl.
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:36 PM   #389
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I've not found a bathroom sink light enough and small enough to hang on the wall between the commode and shower. I don't know the size of the original sink, but there is very little space. There is no space in the shower to put a corner sink.
I am toying with the idea of making a flip up sink. I'd like to find a bowl with a drain hole situated towards the back so that I can install a 90 degree drain connector with a flexible hose so that the hose is against the wall when the sink is flipped up. This is not a new idea, it is similar to other flip up Pullman sink designs, but all I've seen to date are too large for my bath. I'm looking for a sink that is 3-4" deep and 10" in diameter.
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For the faucet, I am thinking about using a wall mount sprayer because when the sink is flipped up, the spigot has to fit within the confines of the bowl.
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Any good ideas out there?
Find a sink drain/basket with a 90 and attach flexible tubing. Might not have to dis connect when up. Got one for my tub. Not at home so I can't look up source. If you can't locate PM next week.
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:53 PM   #390
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Thanks Harold. I’ll PM you next week.
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Old 07-01-2019, 07:46 AM   #391
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A folding sink is an interesting idea. If I was going that path I think I’d do something similar to what you have designed.
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A folding sink is an interesting idea. If I was going that path I think I’d do something similar to what you have designed.
Jeremy, it’s hard to build a mock-up without the faucet and sink. But, you don’t know what faucet or sink to get until you build a mock-up. We’re looking at a few marine sites for hardware ideas. I rebuilt the mock-up this morning to accommodate a faucet we think will work. Getting closer to finalizing.
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