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Old 11-03-2009, 05:04 AM   #211
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Looking great Steve. I told you that you would pass me up during your restore I'll be hitting mine hot and heavy when I get back to Mississippi in Feb.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:06 AM   #212
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Looks good! How many hours you figure you have into that front window from removal, rebuild and reinstall? Looks like a ton of work.
Scott,

As I was telling Bob all day yesterday....be thankful you don't have these windows. Now keep in mind that this is my first time working on hehr windows, or an Airstream in general. This also doesn't include trips to the specialty stores for glass or sealant needed for certain parts of the rebuild.

Here is the approximate breakdown.

I had two hours in the removal time. That was for drilling out the drip cap and window frame, and cutting through the silicone that was everywhere. I would have had a person helping if I had the chance to do it again.

I had approximately 14 hours to break it down, clean the parts, re screen, new gaskets, new fasteners, get new glass, paint hardware, etc. While these windows look cool, they certainly are a pain to redo. To give you an idea, the stationary glass pane in the front window has 25 components to it alone.

Installation that encompasses everything we did yesterday was about 4 hours, and that was two of us for bucking rivets.

So there you have it. approximately 20 hours, or 24 man hours when you include Bob's time.

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Old 11-03-2009, 07:07 AM   #213
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So Steve I can't believe your not gonna pull her down here to Texas for the Vintage Rally next Feb.?????
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If only my trailer would be ready by that point. I don't think there is any way I have this thing camp able by then. I will be attending if I can sell enough tests like I did last year though.

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Old 11-03-2009, 12:12 PM   #214
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Steve, why don't you go with the cheap tank, but get an adapter to take the 5/8" fill down to a 3/8" for the tank?
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:31 PM   #215
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I am first on the list for leak test at the Texas Vintage Rally. Lets get many more folks signed up for the check.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:20 PM   #216
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Git er done

Hey Steve nothing like a deadline to git er done. You do have that other beautiful unit. If not let me know if yo need passage from the airport to Conroe KOA
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:27 AM   #217
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Great work! My windows are a few years newer (1955) and a few less parts but still have many of the same issues as yours and I know this is very time consuming. Keep up the first class job!
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:44 AM   #218
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There were no standards of assembly back in 53 I have discovered, and I have had to rescreen a few times because I assembled the window the same as another only to realize that it wouldn't work after cutting a hole in the screen.

My biggest issue right now is that I do not have the aluminum grommets that hold the screen against the back channel. All of mine broke in removal, and nobody sells them. It's a piece of aluminum with a straight slit punched through it for the operator arm. If anyone has extras, has an idea ot bypass this, or can make some...let me know. Here is a picture.


Bob and I got two more windows and caps installed yesterday, and would have had a thrid if the aforementioned issue with the non standardized layouts have occurred.

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Old 11-04-2009, 09:41 AM   #219
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Can you make a new one out of some scrap alumanum skin that you might have lying around? They might be thinner, but I'm sure that may work. OR, make the oval with slit out of plastic, and rivet some aluminum tabs onto the ends to bend into the holes of the skin?
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:20 PM   #220
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Hey Marc,

The old ones seemed to be scrap alclad. I do have a bunch of this left over, and can use it. The hard part is the rectangular hole for the operator. I wouldn't bother bending the tabs in like the original, but would add a pop rivet into the hole to attach the grommet to the back channel. I figured they were made on a machine punch back in the day.

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Old 11-04-2009, 01:32 PM   #221
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If you have access to a drill press you could drill a line of holes and then clean it up with a metal file.
I have started making some of the small pieces i need for my trailer. While they don't look as good as the original at least I have something. You are right, finding some parts is impossible.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:52 PM   #222
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There were no standards of assembly back in 53 I have discovered, and I have had to rescreen a few times because I assembled the window the same as another only to realize that it wouldn't work after cutting a hole in the screen.

My biggest issue right now is that I do not have the aluminum grommets that hold the screen against the back channel. All of mine broke in removal, and nobody sells them. It's a piece of aluminum with a straight slit punched through it for the operator arm. If anyone has extras, has an idea ot bypass this, or can make some...let me know. Here is a picture.


Bob and I got two more windows and caps installed yesterday, and would have had a thrid if the aforementioned issue with the non standardized layouts have occurred.

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Steve,
I think we can make these ... I have a dremel tool and almost know how to use it! (The slots would be oval.)
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Well Bob...if you can bring that there dremel over next time we can give it a shot. The old ones broke upon removal. I think the oval shape would be okay as long as the operator has a bottom edge to rest on.

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Old 11-04-2009, 06:32 PM   #224
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Just dawned on me . . .

You know, I didn't realize until looking at yours, then looking at my '56s pics, that the screen is sandwiched between the vertical frame bars and the operators.

I think our operators are different (didn't they change in '56 to the crank?) but same basic window design. I can see how rebuild is so time-intensive. This means rescreening if necessary in the future will be a royal PITA, doesn't it?

Looks like you're moving along, Steve. So next time you and Amy come to Chattanooga you'll be parking the Cloud in Mom's yard?
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