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Old 11-29-2009, 09:18 PM   #15
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When I look at the interior wheel wells, I see that they are covered with some kind of "fabric"? Is this asbestos? Man what next, I already have a weird bump in the floor in the front.
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I don't know what that stuff is, but I have it on my Liner wheelwells also. I assume that it is insulation. I will cover it with the cabinets.

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Old 11-30-2009, 06:34 AM   #16
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I don't know what that stuff is, but I have it on my Liner wheelwells also. I assume that it is insulation. I will cover it with the cabinets.

Bill
I think what I am going to do is cover them with fiberglass matting.
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:43 PM   #17
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Your children do not know what you do for them ...
Oh I have reminded them over and over!
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:43 PM   #18
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I don't know what that stuff is, but I have it on my Liner wheelwells also. I assume that it is insulation. I will cover it with the cabinets.

Bill
I don't know what it was but I put a dust mask on and pulled it off. Glad I did , seems like there was black mold under it................
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:37 PM   #19
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Weekend Two

I'm almost done with the removal of the interior skin, I have the lower and upper of the rear to do next weekend and then its on to see what is under the tile floor.

Found more floor rot today, not a good thing.

One other comment, I am amazed at what people will do to these trailers. In this case the past owner noticed floor rot under the dinette seats and under the fridge. So they seal where the wall meets the floor and covers the rotted area with plywood, now there is floor rot X2!

I won't EVEN go into the wiring I found, but lets just say that insulation will melt if a wire gets hot..........
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:58 PM   #20
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Ed,

The entire floor of my Liner had a 3/4" plywood overlay. Yes, the wiring is scary, no ground and taped splices in the center of panels.

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Old 12-26-2009, 07:06 PM   #21
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The destruction is done! (except the pulling of the belly pan, can't do that yet its snowing and 21 degrees out!) I have removed all of the inner skin and have removed all of the rotted floor. That turned out better than I thought, all the rot was confined to the curbside. Next weekend I replace what I removed from the floor, Git Rot the weak spots and move on to stripping the interior skin panels. Oh ya, I only found one spot of frame rot that I can fix with some iron I have, now I get to weld! Nothing more manly than welding!

This is going much better than I thought it would!
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Old 01-10-2010, 05:32 PM   #22
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Well this weekend went poorly, very poorly. I found more frame rot, looked over the floor I removed and figured that I just can't piece in new floor. I'm now looking at an off the frame (something I have never done before) restoration. I have spent the afternoon watching the Packers loose and looking over the older posts on off the frame floor replacements. Again NOT HAPPY!

I'm going to attempt to remove the shell from the floor over the next couple of weeks, this means removing the belly pan and with the outside temps at 15 or less this will not be fun!

I think I have the bracing of the skin down; a trip to the lumber yard will take care of that, now I have to see if the skin will fit through the garage door so it doesn't end up in Michigan with the winds!

Any suggestions warnings, inspiration is appreciated!

I am just bummed.......................
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:24 PM   #23
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Ed,

Take a look at my blog in my sig. I did a shell off after being told it was easier. It did allow much easier access to the frame, and was easier to replace the floor. You could brace exactly the same as I did. I braced across each rib, and there are only 5 in our trailers being 21 feet.

It took me a day and a half working part time to build the bracing, jack the shell up, and shore it up by myself. Once it was elevated and I pulled the frame out from underneath, I just lowered the shell back to the ground a few wood blocks at a time.

Your welder will thank you unless you plan to weld yourself (then you can thank yourself ). Painting the frame will be much easier as well.

Good luck and have fun drilling out a million rivets.

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Old 01-10-2010, 07:42 PM   #24
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More than I wanted to do

Thanks Steve,
I bracing is a big help, now to drill rivets and more rivets and more rivets........

Hope it warms up some.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:32 PM   #25
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You are dedicated! A true airstreamer!
15* outside and you laugh at danger! Ha...

Ok.. or your crazy...

Im going to go with the dedicated part..

Love the pictures, keep the great attitude and we will standby and watch your progress.

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Nice looking trailer. Too bad about the floor and frame. I'd really think about doing a floor replacement "on the frame", like Insideout / Shari did on the Safari, unless you have inside storage space. Good luck either way.

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Old 01-10-2010, 11:26 PM   #27
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Ed ~ One of the advantages of do a shell-on floor replacement in the dead of winter would be you could use an electric heater to at least keep the nose-cicles down to a minimum! Seriously - we were able to work in sub-freezing temps with two little electric heaters and/or a propane heater while replacing our floor. It doesn't make it warm, but it does make it better than the outside temps, if you can't work in a heated garage/workshop...

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Old 01-11-2010, 05:18 AM   #28
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Its gotta be easier than when we did my friends 31' shell off...
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Let me know if you need help...might be fun!
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