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Old 01-06-2004, 05:07 PM   #1
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Hi, I Just purchased a 1952 Flying Cloud - it is serial no 7171. I am the 3rd owner, the last owner had it for most of its 50+ years. It does have a bathroom but what I've heard is they didn't come with bathrooms until later in the 50's. It has the pair of beds in the back with the small dresser between. The front looks like there was possibly a couch facing towards the back with two small upolstered side seats. The couch is gone but the side seats are still there, they seem too far apart to have been a dinette. No Refrigerator, oven/stove or heater.

Anyway it looks like there aren't too many others with this year trailer - at least not on this forum. I would love to hear about others who have a 51, 52 or 53. And if you know of any promotional material from those years - apparently there weren't manuals until later.
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:44 PM   #2
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Early 50's Flying Clouds

Greetings Mark!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Airstreaming!

I am not terribly familiary with the 1950s trailers, but do know of a VAC member who has a beautifully restored 1953 Flying Cloud. I don't believe that he is active on the Forums, but he was quite active on the Vintage Airstream List at one time. You might try posting your question on the VAL list as there are several Flying Cloud owners on the list. You can learn more abou the VAL list at:

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You might also find some information about your coach in the Vintage Archives at:

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Good luck with your investigations!

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Old 01-06-2004, 07:14 PM   #3
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take a look at the archives section at
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you might get an idea about what you need there

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Old 01-06-2004, 09:19 PM   #4
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Hi Mark - good job on your acquisition. I have a couple of photos of a '52 that sounds like the same layout as yours if you're interested in them.

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Old 01-06-2004, 11:57 PM   #5
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1951 Flying Cloud floor plan ideas

Hi Mark: Congratulations on your recent acquisition of 1952 Flying Cloud s/n 7171. It may have been built late in 1951 and sold in 1952 and thus registered as a 1952 model. Whichever the year, it sounds like a nice trailer.

Some 1951 Flying Clouds had custom built floor plans, but rear twin beds with a bathroom is an unusual combination because of the distance a bathroom takes up along an outside wall. But back then the customer was always right, so got what he pleased. Up front you likely had a couch between the two arms as shown in the floor plan below. The center section of the couch would fold out into a double bed.

Here are two different Flying Cloud floor plans from a 1951 catalog. These may help you visualize your original floor plan. Enjoy!
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Hello MarkR,

I have a 1953 Cruiser (26 foot), predecessor to the Overlander. Mine also has a bathroom. It consists of a toilet (not original) and a small sink inside a metal lined shower stall. No holding tanks, still has a small pressurized water tank. I have read that the bathrooms were optional during these years.

Mine also has had the front couch/furniture removed. It has no 12 volt system. does have an original small gas stove, and an original gas heater. They apparently used apartment appliances back then since there appears to be no RV specific appliances.

It has a 120 volt small water heater.

Being in Mississippi, one of the first things I did was to install a modern airconditioner in the center roof vent. I know it doesn't look as good as without one, but Mississippi is very hot much of the year.

I would be happy to answer any questions.

Good luck with your project.
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Old 01-07-2004, 02:26 PM   #7
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Wow, thanks for all your info/replies. I feel pretty lucky to have snagged this trailer, it was pretty much exactly what I have been looking for and I didn't have to go across country to get it. Having said that it is 50+ years old and needs a lot of work - which is part of the reason I wanted it.

FlyFshr, I would really appreciate photos of the 51 you're talking about, can they be emailed or otherwise "posted" somehow?

47weewind, do you have the rest of that catalog? Looks like mine has the front half of one and the back half of the other and I don't have the "suicide door". Anyway I would like to get my hands on a copy of that "catalog".

Again, thanks for all the replies.
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virtual interior tour of a '53 Flying Cloud

Flying Cloud admirers should enjoy this. Go to NON-WORKING LINK and click on the iPIX logo in the photo to start the tour.

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Old 01-08-2004, 04:29 PM   #9
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I went to that site and when I click on the iPIX it opens a smaller window but the content doesn't come through, it has a square line where there should be an image . . . do you know what might be wrong . . .

Never mind it works now, I had to download a software program of somekind - that is a very nice trailer.

Does anyone know what is to the right of the door directly below the TV? There are two things, one looks like it has apolstery on it the other looks like a heater maybe? Anyone know who the manufacturer might be on the heater - if it is a heater?
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Mark,

It looked to me to be a catylic heater. If it is vented he likley did it into the refer flue. The box below looked to me to be some sort of fold down seating as it has the same upholstery as the couch. Looks to be a nice interior redo.
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Old 01-08-2004, 07:30 PM   #11
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Thumbs up Wow~

That is definitely not a factory original~!!
I wished now I had saved some of the pictures of my first one..wait a minute, compared to that one..I'm glad I didn't ..lol
Someone did an outstanding job in remolding that 53FC~!~.

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OK Mark, here's those photos. Its a '52 FC that a friend bought on its way from Texas to California. Made a stop right in front of my house. More to follow.

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The famous Byam burner as it was called. Believe it used kerosene.

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