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Old 04-20-2005, 04:17 PM   #29
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Fred, FF, 53FC... anyone... if you can tell me anything more about these, jump right in! Fred... from the s/n, 3009, can it actually be a '53? I've seen a number of the VAC memberships' FCs in person, and several others... but until you actually HAVE one, there are lots of details that you overlook! Roger
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Congratulations on acquiring an excellent looking Flying Cloud; she's a beauty! Your FC 0-3009 (the "O" for Ohio appears to be faintly stamped in the s/n plate) is the 9th FC built in the 1953 model year. It looks like the twin bed model, with another twin streetside where the shower now is, and a nightstand under the rear window between the beds. A lot of 1953 FC's had the dinette up front, and the full width shelves across the front suggest yours may have too. Front end alternatives are a 3 piece divan (unlikely with the full width shelf) or two barrel back "easy" chairs (likely).
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:46 PM   #30
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Roger:

Congratulations on acquiring an excellent looking Flying Cloud; she's a beauty! Your FC 0-3009 (the "O" for Ohio appears to be faintly stamped in the s/n plate) is the 9th FC built in the 1953 model year. It looks like the twin bed model, with another twin streetside where the shower now is, and a nightstand under the rear window between the beds. A lot of 1953 FC's had the dinette up front, and the full width shelves across the front suggest yours may have too. Front end alternatives are a 3 piece divan (unlikely with the full width shelf) or two barrel back "easy" chairs (likely).
Fred, Mark... thanks very much! This stuff is always so interesting to me. Here's a closeup of the serial plate on this trailer. It appears that perhaps Jackson Center was a little hit-and-miss with the "O" stamp in front of the serial number. After looking, feeling, and cleaning the serial plate, there doesn't appear to be an "O" in front of the 3009 on this one!

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Old 04-20-2005, 11:00 PM   #31
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Fred, Mark... thanks very much! This stuff is always so interesting to me. Here's a closeup of the serial plate on this trailer. It appears that perhaps Jackson Center was a little hit-and-miss with the "O" stamp in front of the serial number. After looking, feeling, and cleaning the serial plate, there doesn't appear to be an "O" in front of the 3009 on this one! Roger
Well, on closer inspection it certainly appears that the "O" stamper had the day off. You'll note the serial number plate has only the 1755 No. Main Street, LA factory address. My theory is the Ohio factory [usually!] added the "O" prefix to identify an Ohio trailer on a California s/n plate. Looks like your trailer suceeded in its wish to "be" a California trailer (even thought built in Ohio).
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:44 PM   #32
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hey rog,

did you get the little guy home ok?

how did it ride behind the toyota?

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hey rog,

did you get the little guy home ok?

how did it ride behind the toyota?

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Hi John!

I used the Reese WD hitch. I thought I had an extra set of cam arms, but I don't, so I just used the WD part without sway. It towed really nicely, although I did feel some 'truck suck' a couple of times on Hiway 61 coming back. I could tell it's slightly heavier than my Burro 17', but not much. I couldn't use the trailer brakes because someone cut the wires and it has a 4 pin flat plug. I just bought a new 12v Bargman pigtail to take care of that... I had the seller repack the bearings before I picked it up, and otherwise, it towed like a Cloud!

Thanks again!

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Old 02-14-2006, 08:45 PM   #34
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Hello to 65GT and all other interested Airstreamers!

I purchased my 1953 Flying Cloud #O3028 in August 2004 from the second owner whose parents bought it from the original owner in the early 60's. I am just now starting to use the Airstream Forums, so I'm still a newbie. I got distracted by purchasing and restoring a 1969 Ultra Van motorhome (Corvair powered) shortly after I got the AIrstream.

Everything looked pretty original on the Flying Cloud and seemed in good shape on the inside, so I started by restoring the exterior with a good polishing. I still remember a neighbor suggesting that this project might take 6 months - "heck no, I'll be all done in 6 weeks!" Famous last words!

I soon removed the 10-year old carpet to find some floor rot, and the next thing I knew, I had completely cutted the entire interior, stripped it down to bare aluminum and begun a total restoration. But more on that later.

As to the dinette, mine was not original either. Based on my research, O3028 originally had a folding table and side chairs. The dinette was added a long time ago and was very crudely constructed. The photos posted on the Vintage Airstream site by the previous owner make it look a LOT better than it was: plywood boxes, with the table bolted to the front nose cabinets. So now that I have repainted the interior skin, laid all new flooring with vintage tile, and I am constructing all new cabinets. As you probably have learned, Airstream spared just about every expense with their woodwork. The construction of mine was typical: pine frames, nailed together (no glue); birch frames on the fronts, doweled together; birch plyword doors and drawer fronts; all finished with Orange Shellac. I have competed the kitchen cabinet and am nearly done with a replacement dinette. I have reused all the original birch, but rebuilt the frames with doweled oak. When new doors or drawers have been needed, birch plywood similiar to the original has been used. All wood has been stripped, sanded, sealed and finished with Orange Shellac (which is tricky to use).

My goals when designing the new dinette included:
underseat storage, removable table, conversion into a bed, access to the front nose cabinet. Again, construction was with doweled red oak frames and birch plywood. I can send you my detailed plans, but in general my seat units are 28" deep x 44" long x 14" high. The back supports are 16" high angled at 8 degrees. My new cushions are 4" thick. The table is 42" x 28" supported by a central metal pipe. The kitchen-side unit has two hinged doors in front and the seat hinges open. The door-side unit is the same, except it also has a hinged door on the end.

Hope this helps get you started. I can post my plans and photos when completed. I've attached some photos of completed kitchen cabinet which includes a cooktop and hidden microway to replace the original Sunray stove.
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Old 03-26-2006, 01:22 PM   #35
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Hi mark, my name is dominic and I 2 am restoring a flying could. I have read your posting and I have similar questions. I don't think that those early models were equipped with bathrooms...or even tanks...am i wrong? take care and thanks for any info.
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:09 AM   #36
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Dominic, you're right, they weren't equipped w/bathrooms but I think buyers had a lot of "say", and the story I got was they had the factory install/modify the trailer to have a wet bath, and they way it was built I'd say it was "factory". There was never a tank, just a waste line to hook directly to a sewer line. I am moving very slow on this project, I have the shell off, all the plywood (mush) has been removed. I need to finalize a design and do some frame repair/reinforcing and then I can get moving again. Where are you at with your project? What is your serial number? Do you have any pictures?
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:58 PM   #37
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mark, my brother just bought a 52 flying cloud (serial 6186) in the houston area.it is in very good condition except it is missing the refrigerator and furniture.it has a full,original bath with shower and original toilet.the bath room door is frosted glass in perfect condition,made in hollywood,ca.the trailer was made in the los angeles factory.it has a near mint condition deluxe dixie stove and mint looking original furnance.out side skin is near perfect.we are researching what furniture it use to have.it needs tail light lenses,if anyone has any for sale.i hope he did not pay to much for it at $550.
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mark, my brother just bought a 52 flying cloud (serial 6186) in the houston area.it is in very good condition except it is missing the refrigerator and furniture.it has a full,original bath with shower and original toilet.the bath room door is frosted glass in perfect condition,made in hollywood,ca.the trailer was made in the los angeles factory.it has a near mint condition deluxe dixie stove and mint looking original furnance.out side skin is near perfect.we are researching what furniture it use to have.it needs tail light lenses,if anyone has any for sale.i hope he did not pay to much for it at $550.
Wow, sounds like a great deal to me. It's just incredible how many of these very early fifties trailers have survived. Pictures, pictures, pictures please. Barry
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Jim, Occasionally those tail lights do show up on eBay . . . and sometimes if they're a complete set (not just the lenses), they sell for nearly as much as your brother paid for the trailer. You can now get reproduction lenses at Vintage Trailer Supply (assuming you're talking about the rectangle tail lights):

http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/...Code=VTS%2D327

And that serial number sounds like it's a 1952 Cruiser. If it's 25' from bumber to ball then its probably a Cruiser.

http://www.vintageairstream.com/arch...ser/index.html

We'd love to see some pictures.
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Great news on your Flying Cloud! If you want to see what a 1953 Flying Cloud unmolested looks like go to this address: My good friend Rich Luhr (Airstream Life Magazine) just picked this one up this week. Everything is original including all the junk inside. He plans on keeping this one for himself with a total restoration. Worst part of it is he won't share this one with me! Anyway the pictures are great and should give you a very clear idea of what the Flying Cloud looked like back in it's day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/airstre...7594343242327/

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It continues to blow me away how many of these have survived and in such reasonable condition. We see so very few being towed down the highways, maybe one reason they have survived so long is that they got tucked away before they got used up. Thanks for sharing the pics of this one. It's always a treat to see how one of these units looked when it came from the factory.
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Smile There's one on Ebay...

There is a 1952 Flying Cloud on Ebay right now. It has a bathroom including a shower and toilet. It is on the curbside at the rear. The sink is at the rear just outside the toilet/shower area. This is the first time I've seen this layout on a '52 FC.

eBay Motors: Vintage Airstream Flying Cloud 22' >> VERY RARE!!! (item 330060896175 end time Dec-16-06 21:23:35 PST)
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