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Old 04-29-2009, 07:54 PM   #15
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i really like this configuration. i wonder why it never stuck? i guess the 5 panels after 57 were even less riveting labor. so the whale tail went extinct. i'm trying to figure out pricing guidelines for whale tails in 'as found condition' and 'restored' how much different is the value of a restored whale tail FC vs ohio FC? anyone have comps? thought i saw one on ebay (yeah i know ha, ha!) 'restored' go for 30 some thousand. around the end of last summer -seems a bit high.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:30 AM   #16
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Here's our two whales tails....will see if we can get SilverPal2 to chime on on value of a restored FC whales tail vs. ohio FC of same year.
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:00 PM   #17
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utee94,
not all whale tail (exterior) interiors are created equal? if you have a WT exterior arent all the interiors WT configuration?
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:14 PM   #18
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Hi gr--

There are actually no interior whale tails as far as I know, generally the aluminum paneled endcaps were 13 segments. There were also some fiberglass endcaps made in the mid-to-late 50s, and by the early 60s all of the interior endcaps were fiberglass rather than aluminum, and I believe this gave way to ABS sometime in the mid 60s.

Anyway, my trailer interior rear endcap is a custom one-off that I just completed. If there are any other interior whale tail endcaps out there in the world, I'd love to see pictures!
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:31 PM   #19
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got one. WT interior. hard to see the detail, but its there.
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:18 PM   #20
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yes, inside as well!

Maybe this shows it better.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:14 PM   #21
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Ha!

Well, that shows how much I know about whale tails. I had no idea they used them for interior as well. I guess my idea isn't original, but I still like it, and I like it best in bare aluminum!
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:13 PM   #22
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I'm actually contemplating stripping and polishing the rear interior endcap! When I remove them to rewire and finish it up 64trotteratl wants to make templates and replace his fiberglass endcap in his 64 GT. The best thing about either the 13 or dutchman endcaps is the individual panels are all flat panels. Anything after this design is a stressformed panel and I've been told that the original forms are long gone. So as long as I have the original I can quite easily(except for the labor) replace any of them using the original as the pattern. Not so with a newer design, they have to be formed to make the curve which I understand is quite expensive!
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:29 PM   #23
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i wonder if the curve is the same between your 13 panel interior 'templates' and the 64 GT interior. ? i'd bet that would be a tedious retrofit with possible alterations. -the 'cool' factor would be well worth the effort!
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:16 AM   #24
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i have a '56 cloud with whale tale exterior and interior. my guess is the value is no different than a non-whale tail trailer. sure the whale tails are cool (i do love mine) but i don't think it's enough to justify a higher cost. if someone thinks otherwise, i might have a '56 whale tail flying cloud for sale
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:45 AM   #25
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i wonder if the curve is the same between your 13 panel interior 'templates' and the 64 GT interior. ? i'd bet that would be a tedious retrofit with possible alterations. -the 'cool' factor would be well worth the effort!
The curve is most definitely NOT the same. I retrofitted my interior whale tail to fit against the curve of the molded fiberglass endcap on my 63, which should be similar to the 64. The geometry is quite challenging.
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I was just thinking about this same thing last saturday. I want to retro my interior to be more like the '50s models and I saw what Carlos Ferguson did with his end caps. Very interesting! I got a flexible straight edge and a marker, and drew a whale tail on the outside of my front end cap to see what it would be like. I'm thinking of making it out of 1/8" plywood like Carlos used.
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:35 AM   #27
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You should do it, Rich. Wood is actually a bit more forgiving than metal, because it holds its form pretty well on its own. A wooden whale tail would look great.

But I can assure you, it's still quite tricky and extremely time-consuming. Off-and-on, I spent many hours over a couple of months creating mine.

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Old 05-05-2009, 11:49 AM   #28
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The front is a thirteen panel.
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The interior front is a classic thirteen panel also.

Big shocker... I am not a whale tale fan. Given the choice... thirteen panel for me. But to each his own.

Sure wish Fred C would show up and straighten us all out. I am guessing we all need correcting.
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