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10-27-2017, 12:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Pardon me if this is a dumb question...Is the wood you installed on the interior finished/stained/sealed yet? If so, what did you use. I really like the look of the wood.
Our international has the modernistic aluminum, white laminate, and wood cabinet interior, and its kind of cold and sterile looking. Yours looks very warm and rustic. Nice look!
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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10-27-2017, 04:35 PM
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#162
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Yes warm and comfortable are terms that are always used when thinking ahead on this project. Now then we mixed a warm yellow and umber stain followed by three brushed and sanded coats of Hemsman Spar varnish , both sides. Then a final sprayed coat of the same. We used the satin finish as I feel the gloss or even semi gloss becomes hard on the eyes because of glare. Just my .02
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11-06-2017, 03:47 PM
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#163
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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11-07-2017, 01:43 PM
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#164
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Cut the first holes in the floor for intake air, then started to frame the bedroom wall.
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11-09-2017, 05:52 PM
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#165
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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11-12-2017, 09:05 PM
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#166
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Barry
I stumbled across your thread today and read it all. Just absolutely amazing work you have done. You are one fine craftsman.
I like your air conditioner design and hope that it works well for you. I took the Armstrong AC unit off my Tradewind because it was butt ugly and noisy. I designed a mounting bracket for my AC unit that works well when we really need it. Usually it just rides in the bottom of the closet because we usually camp where we don’t need AC.
Dan
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11-12-2017, 09:07 PM
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#167
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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A Cloud named 'Spoon'
I have been following it too since I have covered my walls with wood also.
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11-13-2017, 01:29 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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So Dan how big was your trailer and how many BTU was your AC? This is a 6000 BTU , the mock up of the wall will house a duct to vent the cold air up and blow the air into the cabin from ceiling height.
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11-13-2017, 09:29 AM
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#169
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshawks00
So Dan how big was your trailer and how many BTU was your AC? This is a 6000 BTU , the mock up of the wall will house a duct to vent the cold air up and blow the air into the cabin from ceiling height.
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The wood on the walls will help a lot with regard to heating and cooling. While plywood is not an excellent insulator, the thermal break it provides at the edge of cabin will make a huge difference in the transfer of radiant heat.
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11-13-2017, 01:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshawks00
So Dan how big was your trailer and how many BTU was your AC? This is a 6000 BTU , the mock up of the wall will house a duct to vent the cold air up and blow the air into the cabin from ceiling height.
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Barry
Only 5,000 BTU/HR. I wanted it small and light and low on power consumption, so I could operate it using my 1,000 watt genny. Here is the thread with all the details:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f427...nny-91215.html
I was wondering what the wall was all about. Ducting it for a high discharge is a great idea and should also cut down on the fan noise (your very own ducted AC vintage style!).
Dan
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11-13-2017, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Barry
Here are a couple of photos of the AC installed. We have not actually even used it for the past two years because we tend to camp where we don't need it. Mostly it rides in the bottom of a closet. It sure is nice to have it when you need it though.
It is in the middle area of the Tradewind which is where the gaucho is that we sleep. If it is real hot, even though the unit is small, it will keep us cool just fine if we close off the rear bath and the front living room/kitchen area.
Dan
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11-13-2017, 06:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Dan the wood is just kind of framing for the metal ductwork. Once the metal is installed the plan is to wrap the whole thing on foam insulation to keep heat at a minimum , because the unit is directly below the bed platform
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11-14-2017, 09:30 AM
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#173
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshawks00
Dan the wood is just kind of framing for the metal ductwork. Once the metal is installed the plan is to wrap the whole thing on foam insulation to keep heat at a minimum , because the unit is directly below the bed platform
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I don’t know, I think I might make the ducting out of wood and insulate it inside and out if it were me. It would be fast, easy, effective, and quiet.
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11-14-2017, 09:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Biggest worry would be moisture on the wood. I did make drain pan under the AC with a tube for drainage out the bottom.
The framing the AC sits on,is wrapped in rubber to quiet the unit down.
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11-24-2017, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Finally have the AC plumbed, and the exhaust partially done. Now I have work on fashioning the interior ductwork
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11-26-2017, 04:10 PM
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#176
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Quote:
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Looking good! Keep the thread rolling!
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12-02-2017, 03:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
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A little more cold air duct work done. Hard to tell the AC cold air will go up through this partially completed duct to about ceiling height then empty into cabin. This duct is about 4” thick and as wide as the AC intake. Make sense?
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12-08-2017, 06:49 AM
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On adventure with H&G
1955 22' Flying Cloud
1958 26' Overlander
1966 28' Ambassador
Lansing
, Kansas
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 373
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Barry, do you have something to push the cool air up and out the vent up high?
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Too many trailers, not enough time.
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12-08-2017, 10:19 AM
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#179
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Rivet Master
1971 21' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
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Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,530
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My thoughts exactly. The little fan in the AC unit may not have the power to push the cold air in a direction it doesn't want to go. An additional helper fan my be required. Can you close up the duct with cardboard or something and run the AC before you commit to pushing the conditioned air that high up.
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12-09-2017, 02:35 AM
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#180
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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A Cloud named 'Spoon'
Yes it is my intention to tape some cardboard up for the other wall and try it before final assy. The AC does have three speeds but as you have suggested , I will most likely run a pair of small computer fans to help flow move better. Where would you suggest the fans be? Midway? Near the top?
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