Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-26-2010, 07:58 PM   #99
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
Removeable storage area

THANKS Soldiermedic and PBearSailor - your words are kind and provide motivation during those many hours when I'm scratching out one design and moving on to another until I figure it out.

So how do I gain access to the battery area with that cabinet on top? Well I created a removeable storage box that contains two of the drawers. You might have noticed that the framing in that area was doubled up.

This box is secured into the main framing with just a couple of screws. When I back them out, the box slides out and then I can lift up the lid to the battery and various utilities.

Now I have the best of both - full use of that area of the cabinet and access to below when I need it.

This box is built sturdier then some of my other framing so that in effect it is self supporting.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1000666.JPG
Views:	91
Size:	162.7 KB
ID:	97043   Click image for larger version

Name:	P1000667.JPG
Views:	89
Size:	166.9 KB
ID:	97044  

__________________

__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2010, 08:11 PM   #100
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
What's left in the lounge area...

Always a couple more designs to work out and build.

I'm going to be working through the design and build of the top level of the entertainment cabinet next. This area will contain two speakers, a car stereo and a shelf for a big laptop. I'll tie the laptop into the car stereo so I can listen to the audio through the speakers. Still working through a couple of options for how the laptop will be stored and accessed. Like everything else it will serve double duty - as a computer that I will need easy access to unless I go with an additional wireless keyboard and mouse, and as a TV. that I will want to have fixed in the cabinet.

Then I have a couple of smaller projects - building an armrest on the curbside of the L lounge, and that slideout footrest.

Finally the last big project will be designing the table and it's mount. Like most of our big projects this one is starting out with a mockup. I've used a lot of cardboard working on this Flying Cloud. We have a good idea of the shape of the table, just tweaking some of the dimensions. The mount is the tricky part. It needs to be out of the way in terms of accessing all the storage areas in the lounge. Ideally it would be height adjustable and I would be able to slide it in close for eating or push it back for comfortable lounging. Lots of things to get right here. I'm looking at marine supply catalogs for potential table pedestals, hopefully I can get something that does most of what I want.

Here's a couple photos of the table mockup.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1000669.JPG
Views:	101
Size:	184.3 KB
ID:	97045   Click image for larger version

Name:	P1000671.JPG
Views:	82
Size:	173.0 KB
ID:	97046  

__________________

__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2010, 09:17 PM   #101
Rivet Master
 
DavidsonOverlander's Avatar

 
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton , ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 798
Images: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by air19 View Post
Finally the last big project will be designing the table and it's mount.
Wow, your work looks great!

I've been working on the table for our Sovereign. Like yours, the table won't be attached to a wall, which gives an added challenge in how to make it sturdy. There is a description along with a few photos in post #27 of this thread of how I decided to do this: Moving up to a Sovereign
__________________
Grant Davidson
Milton, ON

1946 Spartan Manor
1954 Va-Ka-Shun-Ette
1964 Overlander
1965 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
1974 Sovereign
2005 F-350 SRW 4x4 crew cab long box
TAC ON-5
DavidsonOverlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2010, 10:20 PM   #102
Site Team
 
Aage's Avatar
 
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa , ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,204
Images: 25
air,

I'll join the crowd and say that your work is fabulous!

Love the kidney shaped table. Why not carry the shape through to the foot as well? I really wonder if you could get a steady table with just one support. Do you think it will be stable enough?

A kidney-shaped foot would echo the top, and give you space for s second vertical support...
__________________
“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.”
...John Wayne...........................
Aage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 09:05 AM   #103
Rivet Master
 
3Ms75Argosy's Avatar
 
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
Images: 7
Wow! After looking at the new AS models for 80K, I'd much rather spend some money for your work... if I HAD $80K !!

Looks so beautiful! I bookmarked your thread for future inspiration... have you decided on upholstery yet?
Marc
__________________
3Ms75Argosy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 09:50 AM   #104
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for the compliments everyone.

Davidson I really like your table stand, especially the way you wrapped it in birch. I see many good things being built in your trailer based on this example. I have a couple more challenging requirements for my base. For the bottom we would like to not have as many angle brackets coming down to the floor. Our 120 lb. Newfoundland dog likes to lie around our feet and she will try to curl around the table. And at the top where the base connects to the table, in one area I'm trying to be able to have my feet stretched out below the table reaching out to a foot rest.

Aage - funny you should mention the base shape and two posts. I'm working on a regular dining room table right now with a trestle table design. Maybe a mini trestle table design could be adapted here also. Thanks I'll start thinking through all the issues/details with this one.

3Ms - Thanks! For the woodworking it's all about how much design time and build time I want to put in. I have one major advantage when it comes to building - the trailer is sitting inside, 10 feet from my woodshop. Makes those long days of scribing a lot easier, and fitting the trim just right. If it was outside and 100 feet away it just wouldn't be the same. We lived in Washington State for many years, had a 70s Tradewind that we traveled with for over 30,000 miles, many fond memories. Lots of great state parks just outside of Seattle that we would head out to on the weekends also.
__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 10:38 AM   #105
Rivet Master
 
utee94's Avatar
 
1963 26' Overlander
Austin , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,636
Beautiful work as always, thanks again for sharing.

Searching the marine catalogs is a good idea, there are a lot of great, multi-functional table bases that might work for you. Some even lift or swing to adjust the height and positioning. And I think marine parts and equipment tend to be much higher quality than the similar items produced for the RV industry.

I don't know if you've seen it before or not, but Airstream's new toy hauler, the Pan Am, has an interesting table that runs along in front of a large bench seat in the galley. The table raises and lowers on two low-profile pedestals, and in the down position it becomes part of a narrow bed.

There are some photos here:

Airstream, Inc :: PanAmerica Gallery PanAmerica Gallery

-Marcus
utee94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 01:09 PM   #106
4 Rivet Member
 
RankAm's Avatar

 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Dallas , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 309
Air19, it is great to see your progress! I always am impressed with both your plans and how you execute the plans.

I have been saving large cardboard boxes and sheets, and I am glad to know that you have used cardboard in your mockups.

Your table will be fixed in place, correct? My tentative plan is to have a collapsible table (the mechanics of which I have not resolved and which will stow behind the lounge) to open up the lounge area.

Congratulations on the progress. Hank
__________________
RankAm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 01:38 PM   #107
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
Replies

3Ms - For the fabric we are using, look at post #44, it shows the material on the beds. We will be using the same fabric in the dinette area.

Hank - The current design has the front table mounted in a fixed position on the floor. I am hoping that I will be able to raise and lower the table with the mount, and slide the table on a diagonal into and out of the corner of the L lounge. Like everything so far, I'm sure this design will change a couple of times and the biggest driver will be what type of mount I make or buy.
__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2010, 06:01 PM   #108
Rivet Master
 
DavidsonOverlander's Avatar

 
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton , ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 798
Images: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by air19 View Post
Davidson I really like your table stand, especially the way you wrapped it in birch. I see many good things being built in your trailer based on this example. I have a couple more challenging requirements for my base. For the bottom we would like to not have as many angle brackets coming down to the floor. Our 120 lb. Newfoundland dog likes to lie around our feet and she will try to curl around the table. And at the top where the base connects to the table, in one area I'm trying to be able to have my feet stretched out below the table reaching out to a foot rest.
Air19,
It looks like your table might be smaller than mine, so perhaps you could get away with a smaller base. I'm no engineer, so I don't really know how strong the base needs to keep the table rigid and stand up to the dynamic forces that will result from travelling down the road, I just went with my gut feeling. I might have been able to get by with a lighter, narrower base, but I decided it was better to make it stronger than I thought I'd need rather than having to redo it. I built two tables for the Overlander before I got it right, and I'm hoping to get away with just building one for the Sovereign. Of course at this point I don't know for sure that it will be strong enough, but from the way it feels I'm almost positive that it will be fine.

If you can use a double pedestal as Aage suggested you'll be able to get by with a narrower base. A single pedestal seemed to make more sense for my almost-square table.

Here is a thread about the dinette in our '64 Overlander, which appears similar in shape to what you are planning. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f157...tte-17597.html
__________________
Grant Davidson
Milton, ON

1946 Spartan Manor
1954 Va-Ka-Shun-Ette
1964 Overlander
1965 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
1974 Sovereign
2005 F-350 SRW 4x4 crew cab long box
TAC ON-5
DavidsonOverlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 04:22 PM   #109
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
The Arm Rest

My wife and I decided that it would be nice to have an arm rest with the L lounge to give you something to lean against and to define the seating area better.

Sounded simple enough, but then I couldn't stop. Why create something that doesn't do double duty? Since I was probably going to sit on this side of the L lounge at least I wanted a cup holder. Then I started thinking that if I was watching TV or listening to the radio that their would probably be remotes so I wanted a place for them. Finally if I had the laptop out and dinner was called then I wanted a place to put the laptop.

Now the arm rest was getting more interesting and here is what we came up with. First a couple of pictures of the framing so you can see the skeleton.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3849.JPG
Views:	80
Size:	103.5 KB
ID:	97713   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3850.JPG
Views:	79
Size:	108.4 KB
ID:	97714  

__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 04:27 PM   #110
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
The Arm Rest continued

My wife and I split the workload for all this cabinetry. I design and build it, and she does all the finishing work. Today I got all the trim work back from her and it was time to put things together.

Here are a couple shots of the arm rest completely assembled...
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3852.JPG
Views:	76
Size:	143.6 KB
ID:	97715   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3856.JPG
Views:	91
Size:	104.8 KB
ID:	97716  

__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 04:29 PM   #111
Rivet Master
 
pbearsailor's Avatar

 
1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 863
Looking good as usual. I got my first two Elfa bins today--it's all your fault!

cheers,
steve
__________________
Forum Thread: First She Had to Take a Ride on a Boat

Blog: My 57 Caravanner
pbearsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2010, 04:31 PM   #112
3 Rivet Member
 
air19's Avatar
 
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 111
The Arm Rest continued

You can see the cup holder up front - very handy. Now lets look at a couple more compartments. Just behind the cup holder is a pop off cover for the remotes garage. And finally when you take the top off the arm rest there is space for files, magazines, or a laptop.

Both of these covers are pop offs held in place with magnets.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3857.JPG
Views:	79
Size:	107.0 KB
ID:	97717   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3859.JPG
Views:	75
Size:	113.4 KB
ID:	97718  

__________________

__________________
air19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
1953, flying cloud


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Old Flying Cloud 1953 soldiermedic 1950-1955 Flying Cloud 350 04-02-2012 09:02 PM
21' flying cloud 1953 Richey Member Introductions 4 09-04-2008 12:02 PM
1953 Flying Cloud Pics 1953 Flying 1950-1955 Flying Cloud 18 11-24-2007 10:14 AM
1953 21' flying cloud t.gray 1950-1955 Flying Cloud 123 02-14-2007 02:54 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.