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02-04-2012, 11:55 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1963 19' Globetrotter
San Antonio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klatawa
These are pics of the curtains/mini blinds that Deb designed, sewed and with a little sheetmetal work we assembled and installed on our 1965 Tradewind.
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This is kind of what I had in mind. Would you mind showing me a pic of the inside so I can see how it was sewn?
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02-04-2012, 01:27 PM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Laramie
, Wyoming
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My wife is quite accomplished when it comes to knitting, crocheting, and sewing. She made these lined curtains for our Bambi II, saving $$ over commercial ones or blinds. For those of you who know, she sews on a vintage compact Singer. The valances really set them off!
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02-04-2012, 03:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Pocatello
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Klatawa,
The mounting hardware strip is really interesting: do the blinds mount under/inside the framework that holds the curtains or does the framework mount the blinds as well? That looks like a very efficient and practical system we could use, too.
Thanks!
Vivian
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02-04-2012, 05:34 PM
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Rivet Master
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Sioux Falls
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webspinner
I used triple pleats in ours.
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I'm drape illiterate. What's the difference between triple and single pleats?
Gary
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02-04-2012, 07:56 PM
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Klatawa (to travel)
1965 24' Tradewind
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Bremerton
, Washington
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Vivian
The mini blinds are blind nutted inside of the original curtain tracks that were in the 1965 Tradewind. I sawed the the original curtain track extrusion out then used blind nuts long enough to extend through the mini blind. The curtain track on the outside lip of the extrusion is from Vintage Trailer supply. We did not have all of the original curtain tracks, so I thought , another story. I made four other curtain assemblies out of .063 aluminum forming them on a brake to the desired angle. I can take more pics if you want.
Dave
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(Dave & Debbie)
1965 24' Tradewind
2015 Chev Silverado HC
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02-04-2012, 09:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
Menlo Park
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Splitrock
I'm drape illiterate. What's the difference between triple and single pleats?
Gary
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From the top, single pleats look sort of like this:
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Triple pleats look sort of like this:
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The pleats are made by folding about 3" of fabric over a strip of heavy interfacing, called pleater tape, I think. Each pleat is sewn about 1/2" deep for the height of the pleater tape, so for the top (and bottom in a trailer) 3" of the curtain.
A short horizontal seam is then sewn across the base of each set of pleats at the edge of the pleater tape, binding them all together. This makes triple pleats look sort of like partially open fans at the top. The fabric that went into the pleats opens out in the middle of the curtain for a graceful bulge.
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02-04-2012, 09:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
Menlo Park
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antique Pedaler
The valances really set them off!
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Nice!
Are those valances original to the trailer, or did you make them? If you made them, I'd love to see a closer detail. I'm looking for something like that to hide the roll of a roller blind.
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02-04-2012, 09:20 PM
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Rivet Master
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Sioux Falls
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webspinner
From the top, single pleats look sort of like this:
____()____()____()___()___()___
Triple pleats look sort of like this:
___()()()____()()()____()()()____()()()____
The pleats are made by folding about 3" of fabric over a strip of heavy interfacing, called pleater tape, I think. Each pleat is sewn about 1/2" deep for the height of the pleater tape, so for the top (and bottom in a trailer) 3" of the curtain.
A short horizontal seam is then sewn across the base of each set of pleats at the edge of the pleater tape, binding them all together. This makes triple pleats look sort of like partially open fans at the top. The fabric that went into the pleats opens out in the middle of the curtain for a graceful bulge.
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Thanks! That's a good explanation. I may try to make my own.
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02-05-2012, 03:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Pocatello
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klatawa
Vivian
The mini blinds are blind nutted inside of the original curtain tracks that were in the 1965 Tradewind. I sawed the the original curtain track extrusion out then used blind nuts long enough to extend through the mini blind. The curtain track on the outside lip of the extrusion is from Vintage Trailer supply. We did not have all of the original curtain tracks, so I thought , another story. I made four other curtain assemblies out of .063 aluminum forming them on a brake to the desired angle. I can take more pics if you want.
Dave
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THANKS, dave,
could you please post more pics? I think I have the idea from your description, but more pics would be great.
Vivian
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02-05-2012, 04:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Pocatello
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Klatawa-Dave,
Forgot to ask how your curtains are anchored at the bottom?
Vivian
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02-05-2012, 06:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 17' Caravel
Bethel Park near Pittsburgh
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jan 2007
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My 66 Caravel Now
My 66 Caravel Now
With the orig curtains as found 5 years ago
Ace in PA(heading south this week )
WBCCI 2169
TAC PA-1
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02-05-2012, 08:55 PM
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Klatawa (to travel)
1965 24' Tradewind
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Bremerton
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Vivian & Webspinner
Here are some more pics of the blind/curtain installation. We used snaps at the top and bottom of the curtain on the outside edge.
Some of the valances are the original curtain tracks with the track extrusion saw cut from the extrusion. Some the valances I had to make and used .063 aluminum sheet material and then formed them to the disired width and angle. If you make your own you could make the unit wider to fit an assembly into.
One pic shows the blind nut at the top and just drilled through the blind to attach the nut on the bottom side.
One side note, I cant take credit for the Idea or design that is my wife Debs work
Dave
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(Dave & Debbie)
1965 24' Tradewind
2015 Chev Silverado HC
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02-07-2012, 08:16 AM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Laramie
, Wyoming
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Valances
Quote:
Originally Posted by webspinner
Nice!
Are those valances original to the trailer, or did you make them? If you made them, I'd love to see a closer detail. I'm looking for something like that to hide the roll of a roller blind.
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We made the valances. We made cardboard patterns to follow the curve of the walls and get the tops level. They are attached with valance-long
Aluminum angle iron. Where regular angle iron is 90 degrees these are bent at about 100 degrees to get the valances level then riveted to the walls. The easy part was hanging the curtains...simple tension rods.
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2021 Caravel 20 FB
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03-08-2012, 08:29 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1957 22' Flying Cloud
portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
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i just completed the first set of drapes for my 57 flying cloud. vintage barkcloth.
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03-08-2012, 08:51 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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Portland
, Oregon
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I seriously dig that lamp, Ed!
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03-08-2012, 09:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
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Here are three photos of the curtains I made for my 20' Argosy. I repair sewing machines as a hobby, and decided I needed to learn how to sew too. So, this is my first attempt. This spring I get to do it again for my 22' Argosy. These are single front, single back pleat curtains, very similar to the original ones of that era, and use the original tracks with elastic to stretch them tight, held in by nylon tabs as used in the original. I got the new tabs from Inland RV. There are a whole lot of tabs, one top, one bottom for each pleat.
I found that I could not get self lined curtain material anywhere locally. I wanted full darkening curtains. Wal Mart and other places have pre made curtains which are self lined, that is they have a rubberized backing material which keeps the sun out and protects the fabric. So, it turned out that purchasing pre made curtains and just using the material in them worked out best for me. I got ones in which each panel was wide enough for the new length, and long enough for the new width. The neutral nature of what I chose made the direction of the original irrelevant.
I used what is called pleating tape to stiffen the material for the pleats. You can see how I turned the material over, with the pleating tape inside, in the photo taken from the outside of the glass. I sewed the entire length of the curtains with the pleat tape, top and bottom. Then I sewed a front pleat the vertical height of the pleating tape, every 6", and a back pleat inbetween each front pleat, half way, or 3". Finishing the ends was my week point, and I did not do as good a job as I would have liked there. Sew on Velcro tape was put on to allow closure in the middle. The nylon Tabs with the elastic were sewn on adjacent to each rear pleat (I think, memory issues), top and bottom.
A lot of repetition, and a lot of mindless work. I admit that on my first panel I did not get the top row of pleats in line with the bottom row, and had to rip them out and do them a second time. They are not perfect, but unless you have sewed a lot, most everyone thinks that they look great.
See, men can sew too. Working with stretchy fabric was much more difficult than I ever imagined. I admit that I like working 4 x 8 sheets of plywood better, you can draw a straight line on it with a square. Hats off to anyone who can make cloth do square and straight lines.
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03-08-2012, 09:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
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I'm still thinking about how I will do mine...
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03-08-2012, 09:59 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2010 27' FB International
2012 30' International
Willis
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Emerick
This is the front and side windows of our 59 Traveler, all of the windows are treated the same way.
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These are awesome!
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03-08-2012, 10:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1985 25' Sovereign
South Central Rockies...
, "...'Stream'n the Dream" thru the USA
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Curtain Ideas in a Vintage...
...attached are a few pix of the curtains in the bunk and main areas of our Sovereign. Although the bunk area curtains are patterned, the main area curtain are a chocolate color - both are backed with "blackout" material which has both light reducing and insulative properties.
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High Desert Country of the Rockies
'85 Sovereign 25'er
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