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04-20-2010, 01:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Agoura Hills
, California
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 19
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My wife is an Interior Decorator
We are shopping for a 25 foot AS. My wife is excited, but she has a few demands: (she is a professional interior decorator)
1. Hardwood floor. 2. Double or Queen bed. 3. Dark finish, probably cherry on all interior wood. 4. Replace standard couch with a "rich, brown" leather couch. 5. A variable height coffee table/dining table. (we've seen a similiar set up on sailboats) 6. Replace curtains with wooden shades. 7. More attractive and better lighting.
Mrs. J dictates the esthetics and after looking at used AS, she is not amused by the interiors. That said, she has loved tent camping, although we've moved from a 2 person mountain tent to a North Face Expedition model and we sleep on double thickness air queen and she rolls out an imitation Persian rug! We've have been a sensation from time to time in Big Sur and the high mountains of Colorado!
I've been a sailboat racer for years and can handle all the maintenence of the water, waste and energy management systems and issues.
I imagine that after we locate the right AS, I'll be sanding and refinishing the interior, getting a new floor laid. Mrs. J wants to create a "comfortable, casual, upscale, getaway feel" in our AS. And believe me, there will be no shoes worn inside!
Any thoughts or should I just go ahead and tell her she's crazy?
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04-20-2010, 01:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,701
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First off, welcome to the forums! Your style of tent camping sounds like what ours evolved to before we got our Airstreams! We called it "Gucci Camping"!
There are actually lots of artistically minded members here - myself included, my husband is an architect and I am an interior designer. You may find the best way to satisfy your checklist is to buy a vintage trailer or something maybe not so old, but in a condition you wouldn't mind "starting from scratch" with. We took our '56 ( Birdy) down to the bare bones and rebuilt it how we wanted it...it just so happened to be back to the "original" plan, but it could have been anything. There are lots of folks here on the forums that are in hte middle of or have completed total restorations...you'd be in good company!
Best of luck in whatever you decide to do ~
Shari
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04-20-2010, 01:35 PM
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Moderator
Vintage Kin Owner
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Welcome
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Originally Posted by Jager
I imagine that after we locate the right AS, I'll be sanding and refinishing the interior, getting a new floor laid. Mrs. J wants to create a "comfortable, casual, upscale, getaway feel" in our AS. And believe me, there will be no shoes worn inside!
Any thoughts or should I just go ahead and tell her she's crazy?
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I'd say give Mrs. J what she wants and you'll be happier. The finishes and treatments you describe are well within the realm of possibility.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Kevin
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04-20-2010, 01:56 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,153
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle
First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us
Your plan sounds exciting. Now you need to decide if you want to go vintage or late model. There are probably some late models out there that are somewhat beat up, and in need of an interior renovation. Something like that might be worth considering as you will have the original fittings to use as patterns for your stylish upgrades.
Keep us posted on your progress.
Brian
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04-20-2010, 02:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,367
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Maybe un-realistic?
Hi, your trailer sounds like a dream, but is it realistic? To do the hard wood floor properly you need to remove the entire interior. Then to have a cherry wood stain/color, you need to have wood, not vinyl, on the cabinets etc. We usually don't wear shoes in our trailer, but when you are camping, sometimes you will be in water, mud, or snow. [or combination of all three] So we have to at least get inside before taking our shoes off. [not to mention a soaked umbrella at times] Sometimes a vinyl floor is more practical. Maybe you should buy an Airstream that is as close to what you want and then take it camping a few times to see if want you want is going to work out for you.
Don't get me wrong, but your idea [my opinion] sounds like a show piece or a stationary patio trailer. I work real hard to keep my trailer clean, but I'm not afraid to use it either. [as you can see in my pictures] Good luck with what ever you decide to do.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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04-20-2010, 03:14 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Agoura Hills
, California
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 19
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Your trailer looks great!
Ours won't be a "patio queen" or a guest house, either. We have two grandsons in Santa Cruz and we meet on the south end of Big Sur 5 or 6 times a year, so there is that and we are close to the beach and the desert, so getting out of the LA basin is not a big problem. Unless Mrs. J has to meet a client on the weekend we'll be gone somewhere. My wife has a number of vendors and craftsmen she works with on a regular basis and I'm sure it is in her wheelhouse to call in some of the favors she is owed. When we did the new floors in our house, we had the baseboard raised after we stripped everything down the base flooring, why would you have to gut the AS interior to lay new flooring? I know some the older carpeted models had the cabinetry built on top of the carpet is that still the case?
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04-20-2010, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Missouri City
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager
1. Hardwood floor. 2. Double or Queen bed. 3. Dark finish, probably cherry on all interior wood. 4. Replace standard couch with a "rich, brown" leather couch. 5. A variable height coffee table/dining table. (we've seen a similiar set up on sailboats) 6. Replace curtains with wooden shades. 7. More attractive and better lighting.
Mrs. J dictates the esthetics and after looking at used AS, she is not amused by the interiors.
Any thoughts or should I just go ahead and tell her she's crazy?
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A vintage 70's or 80's Airstream could be the answer. Here are some pics of my 1976 31' Sovereign. I went with Oak rather than cherry, stayed with rear twin beds and dark leather wall away recliners. Satellite HDTV and satellite radio. New axles, aluminum wheels, Disc brakes, tankless water heater, HA hitch and a great bar with Airstream glasses and aluminum coasters for a little style . Its our home away from home and ready to go anywhere.
Don
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04-20-2010, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,701
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The biggest concern with adding hardwood floors, and other decorative materials (corian, stone, tile, etc) is the added weight. Especially in an older trailer, you want to make sure the floor & frame are very solid prior to installing it and also that the additional weight can be factored in to the axle/frame/towing capacity. Some years these tolerances were quite low.
Shari
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04-20-2010, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
1968 26' Overlander
Beaver County
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 620
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Jager,
I agree with Kevin, give Mrs. J what she wants. We used the laminate flooring and it looks pretty good and doesn't weigh as much as hardwood. We also converted the front dinette in our 64 Safari into a pull out sofa queen sized bed that allows us each to get out on our own side. (It's kind of sad that you reach a stage in your life when crawling over each other in the middle of the night is not as much fun as it once was.) We also refinished the cabinets, and could have easily stained them to a different color during the process. The coffee table has an extra set of legs so it can be used as a dining table (it also serves as the foot of the bed). We didn't change the lighting, but that seems within the range of good taste, and should be acheivable for you. We added a microwave, an electric fireplace and an 8 bottle wine cooler.
So, I say, go for it and enjoy!
Roy
BTW, there are some photos on 64airstream.com
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04-20-2010, 05:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Missouri City
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,233
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
The biggest concern with adding hardwood floors, and other decorative materials (corian, stone, tile, etc) is the added weight. Especially in an older trailer, you want to make sure the floor & frame are very solid prior to installing it and also that the additional weight can be factored in to the axle/frame/towing capacity. Some years these tolerances were quite low.
Shari
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Yes you have to be careful in adding weight, but with advanc planning these materials work great. The parquet floors in my 76 Sovereign probably did not weigh much more that the old shag carpet. They are only layed in the exposed area not under the cabinets. The oak cabinet doors and other trim or a combination of 1/4' stock and veneer. My Corina counter top is actually a very small area when you consider the cutout for the sink and range top. The closet doors are the same light weight doors that came with the trailer just trimmed in oak with a vinyl wall covering. The new fridge weighs lees that the old Dometic that I replaced. I have also removed weight in areas as well such as removing the old furnace. All in all I am still well with in a proper weight range for my 76 31' Sovereign.
Don
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04-20-2010, 06:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
1960 24' Tradewind
1961 16' Bambi
Oakland
, California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 758
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Glamping!
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Your style of tent camping sounds like what ours evolved to before we got our Airstreams! We called it "Gucci Camping"!
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We call it "Glamping".
Having used North Face's four season expedition Mountain 25 tent, and still do, our Airstream is definitely a touch more glamorous when "camping".
We tried to stay true to our trailer's mid century modern aesthetic. We've outfitted ours with a vintage George Nelson for Herman Miller fiberglass lamp and vintage Knoll Bertoia diamond chairs that we set outside with a low-slung kidney shaped table.
Good luck with your Airstream. We're sure it will be gorgeous and hope that you will be "glamping" soon. We can't wait to see it!
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04-20-2010, 09:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager
why would you have to gut the AS interior to lay new flooring? I know some the older carpeted models had the cabinetry built on top of the carpet is that still the case?
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Hi, I guess you don't have to gut your Airstream to do the floor, but I think it would be nicer done that way. [check out some restoration threads] My trailer had the vinyl floor and bedroom carpet installed first, and everything installed on top of it. On the other hand, doing just what shows could save a lot of weight; And need a lot of trim pieces on the edges.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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05-18-2010, 05:43 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Classic
Port Angeles
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 244
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager
We are shopping for a 25 foot AS. My wife is excited, but she has a few demands: (she is a professional interior decorator)
1. Hardwood floor. 2. Double or Queen bed. 3. Dark finish, probably cherry on all interior wood. 4. Replace standard couch with a "rich, brown" leather couch. 5. A variable height coffee table/dining table. (we've seen a similiar set up on sailboats) 6. Replace curtains with wooden shades. 7. More attractive and better lighting.
Mrs. J dictates the esthetics and after looking at used AS, she is not amused by the interiors. That said, she has loved tent camping, although we've moved from a 2 person mountain tent to a North Face Expedition model and we sleep on double thickness air queen and she rolls out an imitation Persian rug! We've have been a sensation from time to time in Big Sur and the high mountains of Colorado!
I've been a sailboat racer for years and can handle all the maintenence of the water, waste and energy management systems and issues.
I imagine that after we locate the right AS, I'll be sanding and refinishing the interior, getting a new floor laid. Mrs. J wants to create a "comfortable, casual, upscale, getaway feel" in our AS. And believe me, there will be no shoes worn inside!
Any thoughts or should I just go ahead and tell her she's crazy?
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I am VERY MUCH looking forward to seeing pic's of your brides artwork on your Airstream.
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05-28-2011, 10:16 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 255
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way to go!
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Originally Posted by adonh
A vintage 70's or 80's Airstream could be the answer. Here are some pics of my 1976 31' Sovereign. I went with Oak rather than cherry, stayed with rear twin beds and dark leather wall away recliners. Satellite HDTV and satellite radio. New axles, aluminum wheels, Disc brakes, tankless water heater, HA hitch and a great bar with Airstream glasses and aluminum coasters for a little style . Its our home away from home and ready to go anywhere.
Don
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Don, I love your updates! We are thinking of adding the 2 recliners also. Did you paint the walls? Love the bedroom finishes and the curtains are nice with not-so-fussy pleats. We are just starting our remodel and I will use some of your ideas. Thanks for posting the link to your pictures!
Debi & Jim
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05-28-2011, 10:38 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 Argosy 26
1966 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Southern
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 273
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We will be going with a laminate floor once my sbfloor repairs are complete...it's actually leftover from a house project 5 years ago and has held up really well (we don't go barefoot at all). I am considering a wood grain laminate (i.e. Formica-type) to face the cabinets and wall panels.
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02-08-2012, 08:18 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 16' International CCD
Orem
, Utah
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 213
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Simple just order brand new 2012
I am sure you could specify all materials used in airstream. It is going to be alot of work and effort getting them materials. Then paying little extra for brazilian cherry laminate and finishes. Most lighting on new ones are great! I just got back from flooring dealer lumber liquidators. One item that really had wow factor Brazilian cherry with oxide finish. I am also looking at a Brazilian maple harder than american varieties.
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02-08-2012, 08:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yhottys
We call it "Glamping".
Having used North Face's four season expedition Mountain 25 tent, and still do, our Airstream is definitely a touch more glamorous when "camping".
We tried to stay true to our trailer's mid century modern aesthetic. We've outfitted ours with a vintage George Nelson for Herman Miller fiberglass lamp and vintage Knoll Bertoia diamond chairs that we set outside with a low-slung kidney shaped table.
Good luck with your Airstream. We're sure it will be gorgeous and hope that you will be "glamping" soon. We can't wait to see it!
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Exactly.
We were used to backpacking at a true minimalist level, but for camping, we were slowly growing from one single 2 person tent to a 4 person, small sleeping bags to giant down assemblies with blankets and real pillows, bringing 4-6 chairs, a big table, gourmet food supplies, tons of pots and pans to prepare that food, etc. etc. This got out of control and we figured why not buy a trailer to do two things: take the "glamping" to a whole other plane of existence, and minimize the mob/demob time when changing campsites.
However, when we started thinking about the interior rebuild we decided that the style would have to be perfect and that we might not want vintage. Thus we are going fairly modern on the design, with some vintage notes.
Either way, you can't go wrong. Those ideas you have thrown out there are more than feasible, with any year. My guess is your boss is going to want a newer model Airstream, i.e. wide or wider body, not a 50's width and height. That extra space makes a huge difference and based upon the styles she is requesting, I'm thinking she'll appreciate the more open feeling to go along with it.
Good luck!
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02-08-2012, 11:20 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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"I agree with Kevin, give Mrs. J what she wants."
I've learned over time to appreciate my dear Fathers rule for a smooth marital relationship in all endeviours....."she's not happy, 'til your not happy"
Learn to bend.
Bob
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02-09-2012, 08:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 28' International
Antioch
, SF Bay Area
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 330
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Jagers...can't wait to see pics when your AS is done - I'm sure it's going to be stunning! I'm on the side of your wife... it has to look amazing -- we picked up a perfectly nice and functional AS last summer and we've already done a ton of work and it's up at our renovation guy right now .... I personally sourced my materials from all over the place mainly residential resources as unique/high quality stuff for RV's seems to be lacking, have spent considerable time on it but it's been fun and will be so worth it! I am exercising common sense however... we've already used it a lot and I'd forgotten how dirty camping can be so the fabrics have to be both functional, clean up easily and be stunning!
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02-09-2012, 08:45 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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OP hasn't been here in nearly two years.
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