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03-26-2016, 12:39 PM
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New Member
2013 27' Flying Cloud
Denver
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Installing Oceanair Roller Shades In 2013 Airstream
I am looking to convert the metal blinds in my 2013 Airstream Flying Cloud to Oceanair Roller shades. I'm having trouble finding a dealer who is qualified for the work. Can someone please give me some advice on installation?
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03-26-2016, 01:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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I bought four of the ocean air shades. I had trouble locating somewhere to order them. The custom ones cost me a fortune from some yacht place. Do you have them already? Airstream can sell them to you if it is sized correctly for your windows and they are cheaper than custom.
They are not hard to put in. They fit close and tight. If you are up for it DIY. Take some pictures of an AS with them (up close where they are attached) to get an idea of how to do it. If I remember, the screws are in the bag as is the little holder latch and knot-on catch at the bottom. Just remember to drill the hole (smaller than screw) through the inner shell and tighten the screws only until the start to tighten- not too tight. Use a level to get the left/right height. I do not know if Airstream uses the stop knobs in their application but I did and it works perfect for the Herr window. I can close the shade to the stop and open the windows at the bottom too.
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03-26-2016, 01:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
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Join Date: Nov 2015
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Here is a source for the shades, just in case you need it:
http://www.zarcor.com/rv_market/index.php
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03-26-2016, 01:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asburt01
I am looking to convert the metal blinds in my 2013 Airstream Flying Cloud to Oceanair Roller shades. I'm having trouble finding a dealer who is qualified for the work. Can someone please give me some advice on installation?
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I know the dealership where I work will do it. And the parts department will order them. I've pretty much browbeaten them into it, the parts guys will come see me to order the correct shades for your trailer. I've spent considerable time figuring out which Airstream part numbers fit what older trailers, and how many of each.
The drawback for you is, it's a pretty long drive just to get shades.
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03-26-2016, 02:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Edisto Island
, South Carolina
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Rodsterinfl is correct; they are an easy DIY project if you want to tackle it. I installed them in our 2013 FC all around except for the bathroom, where I used one of the sliding closures carried by Zarcor.com. As SeaLevel stated, it is an excellent source for the shades-also much less expensive than any other place I tried. If you want part numbers or more info, feel free to PM me.
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03-26-2016, 10:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Interesting thread. I would be interested in changing ours out also. We have a28' FC 2013. So if anyone can assist on what units to order that would be great
Thanks
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03-26-2016, 10:50 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Interesting!!!! We have the standard blinds on our Flying Cloud. We decided to "upgrade" to the Oceanaire roller shades. We ordered then through our Airstream Dealer, not cheap, but included all the parts, etc. very easy to install. Due to time constraints, I only was able to install them on two of the Windows before a trip. While they are nice, and looked great, we missed the ability we had with the blinds to vary the overall opening just by adjusting the tilt of the individuals slats on the blinds. And with the blinds we can have them fully up, closed, or anywhere in between. On the Oceanaire, they were either fully open, half open if you hooked them on the window handles, or closed. We really missy the adjustability of the blinds. So I re-installed the blinds, and returned the Oceanaire shades. That is probably just us, but thought I would share our experience
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03-27-2016, 08:07 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Edisto Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 225
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Doug, I sent you a PM with the part numbers of the shades we installed in our 2013 FC 25-footer. The shades were much less expensive from Zarcor than from any dealer we checked.
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03-27-2016, 11:12 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Currently Looking...
mesquite
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Shades
I.installed one on my door (27 ft international signature) same that was /is over three kitchen. Learned the hard way not to use the aluminum screws that came with it. Stainless steel worked and didn't break off. I got lucky and was able to get the broken aluminum one out.
Btw . I didn't have a rivet tool.
Probably would work just as well.
Posted it on forum what I had done and someone responded what would i do if it rained!
Didn't answer that! But thought to myself. Maybe i would just close the door! Duh!
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03-27-2016, 12:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Sandy
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
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I just had them installed on our 2010-30' FC, bedroom only. They work great as they're intended for privacy during sleep and changing clothes. Otherwise, they're open. Kept the blinds that came with the AS in the kitchen and living room, as I can adjust them as needed. They were installed by Adventures Northwest, in Gladstone, Or. $750 installed. Not cheap, but worth it.
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03-27-2016, 10:46 PM
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New Member
2013 27' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Thanks! I appreciate all the great tips. I have my on order so should have them soon!
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03-27-2016, 10:49 PM
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New Member
2013 27' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2016
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@moxie t. moto- Thanks for your response. Quick follow up. Did you do anything special or just screw the blinds directly into the aluminum. Did you use an anchor any anything else special?
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03-29-2016, 11:19 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Currently Looking...
mesquite
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 105
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oceanair
Made small pilots holes. Used stainless steel metal screws. Aluminum ones tended to break off. Was able to extract broken off one (barely).
thought the panel on the inside of the door was a piece of fiberform. Turned out to be painted aluminum. .
glad I out that shade on the door! Was parked under really bright security light at recent rally in shawnee ok. Life saver.
hope your project goes well.
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04-20-2016, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 31' Classic
Garner,
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while the OceanAire are a nice product like you mentioned either up or down.. open or closed of half way which block the window..
I like the mini blinds with ability to turn them open or half open or closed or up or down.. way more user adjustable it seems to me.
sometimes simple is better.
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Originally Posted by amaier7771
Interesting!!!! We have the standard blinds on our Flying Cloud. We decided to "upgrade" to the Oceanaire roller shades. We ordered then through our Airstream Dealer, not cheap, but included all the parts, etc. very easy to install. Due to time constraints, I only was able to install them on two of the Windows before a trip. While they are nice, and looked great, we missed the ability we had with the blinds to vary the overall opening just by adjusting the tilt of the individuals slats on the blinds. And with the blinds we can have them fully up, closed, or anywhere in between. On the Oceanaire, they were either fully open, half open if you hooked them on the window handles, or closed. We really missy the adjustability of the blinds. So I re-installed the blinds, and returned the Oceanaire shades. That is probably just us, but thought I would share our experience����������
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04-20-2016, 03:32 PM
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Rivet Master
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Part of the reason for buying a new rather than used AS was to get the shades. They fit our lifestyle. The rattle of metal blinds does not work well for us, but we do understand why folks want the adjustment they provide.
Good luck with your install. If you keep adding the good stuff like this, you'l have a 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 ..... AS. Kind of Cash's Cadillac. Pat
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11-26-2016, 04:50 AM
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ShinyPete
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Bushnell
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Just circling back on this thread to update that we completed the OceanAir install in our Pete yesterday. We pined for these for a long while, as we were really not fans of the $9.00 mini-blinds in our coach..... When we started seeing these in the newer Airstreams, we knew we wanted them.
As many above have stated, we ordered the five that we needed from Zarcor. They have a good size comparison table on their website for many of the common Airstream window sizes. In case it helps someone in the future, we ordered four of the RSH-7561864 blinds for the two bedroom and two lounge windows, and one RSH-4831610 for the double porthole windows over the sink. This is in our 2014 Flying Cloud 27fb. These are the perfect sizes for this coach, and the window open levers even make nice "partly open" position holders for the bottom of the blind tubes.
We took our time, leveling each roller tube, and carefully adjusting the position to match the window as perfectly as would could, held our breath, and started drilling 3/32" holes. It worked fine, the screws they included appear to be stainless steel and are very tough, and we are very happy in how it turned out. I did not order the plastic "plugs" they sell for the old mini-blind mounting holes. I might just fill the ones we see with a rivet. I'm still pondering on that.........
So, we're happy with the upgrade, and looking forward to the grand young'uns not popping the mini-blinds from bed when they bunk with us, not having to mess with the bottom tabs to open them fully, and the ends not bending if you look at them funny.
Hope this helps.
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11-26-2016, 04:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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Hmm, i've got one set of blinds in my 2008 Classic 25fb in the kitchen next to the sink. I don't really like them. I wonder if I can order one with a different color than the gray? Also, are they water proof and clean up well incase of over splash from the sink?
Kelvin
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11-26-2016, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Hmm, i've got one set of blinds in my 2008 Classic 25fb in the kitchen next to the sink. I don't really like them. I wonder if I can order one with a different color than the gray? Also, are they water proof and clean up well in case of over splash from the sink?
Kelvin
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The Oceanaire shades do clean up pretty easily, though I can't answer about the colors. One thing I've noticed about them, is you have to be sure to roll them straight up and down, or else the edges will rapidly fray.
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11-26-2016, 06:26 AM
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2014 30' Flying Cloud
Tampa
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Thanks for posting! I believe this will be my next project.
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03-25-2019, 05:17 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 20' Flying Cloud
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"While they are nice, and looked great, we missed the ability we had with the blinds to vary the overall opening just by adjusting the tilt of the individuals slats on the blinds. And with the blinds we can have them fully up, closed, or anywhere in between. On the Oceanaire, they were either fully open, half open if you hooked them on the window handles, or closed. We really miss the adjustability of the blinds. So I re-installed the blinds, and returned the Oceanaire shades. That is probably just us, but thought I would share our experience"
***This is my biggest concern too. Being able to adjust light with the blinds is a plus, especially with the big windows. Thanks for easing my mind...not to switch. I may just get some wooden slat blinds. Thanks J.
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