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07-23-2014, 02:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Bugtussle
, Oklahoma
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 400
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B O A T=*Bust*Out*Another*Thousand!
Can we come up with a good acronym for AIRSTREAM?
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1967 Overlander International 26ft
2006 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 520hp 530ft-lbs torque 7700lb towing capacity
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07-24-2014, 02:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Culver City
, California
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 208
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Well I will do my get to track how much money I put into this little guy. So far I got the rivet kit and rivet removal tool from vintage trailer supply. I kinda look at airstreams as putting money in the bank to an extent. As long as I do a good job fixing it, and never fling it off a mountain by accident, I should get my money back out. The same doesn't seem to be true with things that have engines it in from my experience (like your boat). Unless of course someone with your exact taste is out there!
So tonight I finished removing all the interior panels and rat turd infused insulation. You will all be happy to know I wore a full face respirator and won't die of the pink lung (kinda like the black lung coal miners got).
However, I did stick with the old jeans and t-shirt. My arms were covered in pink fur. A remedy I googled and seemed to do the trick was:
1. Gently wipe my arms with towel in direction of the hairs.
2. pouring apple cider vinegar on my arms and neck.
3. Wait 10 minutes without scratching myself
4. Take a cold shower always wiping in the direction of the hairs.
It was not fun. Now it is time for the garbage fairy to deliver his goodies to all the neighbor's trash cans while everyone is fast asleep.
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07-24-2014, 03:41 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Culver City
, California
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 208
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Here it is. I screwed up all the wiring when removing the panels and didn't label any of it. So I'm going to at least mark where the outlets go and rip that out tonight and clean it all up in there.
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07-24-2014, 05:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Portsmouth
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 776
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Have you saved any of the interior bits? The old aluminum panels, any of the bulkheads? If you are not going to reuse them, at the very least they are very good to keep around as templates for any new stuff that goes in.
Sounds like you are going hell bent for leather, you may want to slow down and make sure you know what comes out so you'll have a better idea of what has to go back in. And if the job starts to slow down a bit and you find yourself 6 mos from now wondering exactly how this or that was originally set up, you'll know what I'm talking about
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07-24-2014, 05:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 25' Tradewind
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 353
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Why rip out the wiring? I imagine the DC wire at least is fine unless it the insulation is cracked. Unless you REALLY want to redesign the entire electrical system. You old interior skins has areas for lights etc. ask around and get a service manual for your year it will give you wiring schematics so that you can figure out the wiring if you didn't label anything.
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07-24-2014, 07:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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I tried replacing the shower pan. Please help.
Fwiw , when I went back together I went with hardly any 12 volt at all, trailer running lights, water pump, scare lights, and a few auxiliary lights in the cabinets.
I run pretty much all 120 volt through an inverter.
It seems to work pretty (very) well, it is much more simple as there is only one wiring system.
This helped me with my goal of using the trailer 90 days after purchase with a full gutting in between.
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07-24-2014, 07:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Spokane
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 126
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Good GOD man, what have you gotten yourself into?
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07-24-2014, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Taking apart is easy enough....
Putting it together takes perseverance.
Frankly, from the first post I have seriously considered that the OP is pulling our leg just a bit and he never intended on putting the stock stuff back in....
I also suspect that he might just put that trailer together quick......
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07-24-2014, 07:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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When I put my trailer together I intentionally didn't post my progress and my ideas because I built a very unconventional trailer that would have induced controversy.....
I knew what I wanted, and it was enough to persuade my family of what I was going to do let alone trying to battle most of the forum......
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07-24-2014, 08:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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I tried replacing the shower pan. Please help.
Back to answer some of your questions in post 8, my son, my wife and myself did most all of the work with a little help from my niece and my daughter.
My plan was unconventional;
"Studio apartment" design, no bedroom, queen bed in the front. I figured since the trailer is for my wife and I, I didn't need to waste valuable floor space on a separate bedroom.
I wanted a functional Kitchen, big enough to comfortably cook in.
I wanted a full size shower, with limitless hot water when the trailer is at a campsite with connections.
I wanted a full size flush toilet with a real trap.
I wanted a full wood interior.
I knew I was going to gut my interior before I bought the trailer. At first I felt a bit of shame at discarding the original interior, but that passed pretty quick.
This was my first attempt at carpentry, a skilled woodworker would likely find plenty of fault with my work, but it is pretty much what I wanted. Simple design and assembly, Rustic but warm.
The thing is,,,, without having to worry about having to put the old stuff back,,, you can do whatever you want with your trailer.
Good luck with the project, and above all,,, stay with it, if you do you can get it done quick, and do a great job of it.
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07-24-2014, 09:26 PM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,254
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Your trailer looks beautiful, and uniquely yours. I can't imagine why you would worry about controversy. There's always someone (especially on the internet) who wants to tell someone else why what they are doing is wrong! Doesn't mean you have to listen to them Nice job!
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07-24-2014, 09:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Thank you!
I think I like and enjoy it too much.
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07-24-2014, 10:45 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Culver City
, California
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 208
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Wow J. Morgan, thanks for the additional pictures. Very very inspirational!
I did save all the interior skins and want to put those back in. I labeled them before I took them out and then I did something I thought would be helpful, I walked around and filmed each of the labels. That way I would know where exactly "g" went and if it went over or under "h". The big plastic end caps are intact and I can use those for sure.
As for the wires. A bunch of lights were real finicky or didn't work at all. I think Micky Mouse was the culprit. So I guess I'll be wiring from scratch. I think that may make things more sensicle for me anyway.
Now if someone could just tell me what that red wire connects to
And J. Morgan, I'm very interested to hear about your water heater. Is it just an "on-demand" type from a house?
And your toilet is a house toilet too? I'll be needing a new toilet in case you didn't see my post.
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07-25-2014, 12:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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I tried replacing the shower pan. Please help.
The hw heater is a residential unit I got from Overstock.com for a little less than $500 if I remember right.
It makes 7 gallons a minute, and produces a very even temperature, I set it on 113 degrees and enjoy endless showers.
It specifically marketed as not for RV use..... But I used it anyway. So far so good, and it is quite compact.
The toilet actually came out of my parents house. I adjusted the float low in the tank to save water and black tank space. I sealed the lid with rubber strip, and flush the tank empty before travel.
At about gallon for a complete flush, we have to be judicious (small flushes) when not hooked to services, but if I had to do it over again I would do the same again.
It does not dump directly into the black tank but is plumbed as if it was in a house.
The stove we used is a 20" wide "apartment stove", (made in America believe it or not) it works great too.
I ditched the furnace too and installed a Williams direct vent wall furnace. We have tested it to the single digits and it easily keeps the trailer warm.
ALL of this stuff requires 120 volts to run so an inverter is an integral part of my trailer.
Oh yea, this furnace is not RV certified either,,,, and again I bought and used it anyway. It does work when the trailer is being towed at 65 mph.... And it only required a 2" vent.
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07-25-2014, 12:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I am not recommending that anyone use appliances not certified for RV use, I am just saying I did use them after thinking it over and examining the inner workings for sound construction.
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07-25-2014, 12:16 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I tried replacing the shower pan. Please help.
I should also include this disclaimer, moving EVERYTHING was made a lot easier because I covered the old aluminum skins with wood.
In other words, I didn't need to worry about there being holes etc in the old skins because of where old fixtures, bulkheads, cabinets, etc were as they were getting covered anyway.
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07-25-2014, 01:11 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Culver City
, California
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 208
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One of the only things that seems to be salvageable in my trailer seems to be the water pump and the 5gallon water heater. However, the water heater seems to be a cumbersome pain in the butt, judging solely on the lesson the PO gave me on it when I bought the trailer. I think I will go with your on-demand route.
As for the AC and heating, mine didn't come with an AC and the heater seems like it will kill me in my sleep, so I ripped it out with everything else. I started looking at 100% DC mini split units that run on solar panels. They heat and cool and I won't have an ugly unit on my roof.
I like your toilet idea, but am concerned with filling my tank too fast and the added weight of the porcelain. So might have to stick with an RV toilet.
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07-25-2014, 01:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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If nothing else, you're surely ambitious, but maybe a little quick to dig into what looks to be a roller coaster that you can't get off of! It has been an entertaining read so far!! :-)
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-25-2014, 05:22 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1972 21' Globetrotter
Culver City
, California
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 208
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Haha, I aim to please. Hopefully someone out there can learn from my misfortune.
This weekend I'm going to try to raise the body off the frame and take out the rotted floor. I saw some posts on here about how to do it. So stay tuned because with my luck so far the entire thing will be rusted. Yippee!
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07-25-2014, 06:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 17' Caravel
Newport
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,291
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Holy crap were you green or did you get pissed when you took that puppy apart? Yes you can fix it but please control you hulk side! When I get mad I just throw a cheap tool then spend an hour or 2 trying to find it!
Cliff
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