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11-24-2011, 10:01 PM
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1 Rivet Member
west orange
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 17
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I like it firm, but...
not in my Mattress. Is there any one that knows of an alternative to that crazy thing they put in a new 27 flying cloud?
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11-24-2011, 10:35 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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We have an '05 Safari 25FB. When she was new we also thought that the mattress was somewhat firm. Early on, we added a 1 1/2" memory foam topper to the mattress. We have slept on this combo a bunch (960+ nights/80,000+ miles) and find it quite comfortable. We like it better than our matttress at home.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
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11-24-2011, 10:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB International
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 731
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On our '09 27FB we tossed the trailer queen (bed) and replaced it with a good quality full size queen. One of the best modifications we have done.
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2009 27FB International Ocean Breeze
2010 Toyota Tundra CrewMax, 5.7L V8, 4x4
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11-24-2011, 11:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 27' FB International
Fremont
, California
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 268
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I guess I'm just lucky, both my wife and I find the mattress in our new '12 International just to our liking. It is one step beyond firm, it's like a board but for whatever the reason we're enjoying it.
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11-25-2011, 12:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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We've added a memory foam topper as well, and now all is good...
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11-25-2011, 08:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Mattress
They only put great mattresses in the Classics - I replaced mine with a custom made 7 inch foam model. We have a local chain with a store and the factory in the back. Check the Yellow Pages or the internet to find the one closest to you.
The mattress topper seems to be good for a lot of people - it's cheaper too.
Paula
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01-27-2012, 07:35 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott J-24
On our '09 27FB we tossed the trailer queen (bed) and replaced it with a good quality full size queen. One of the best modifications we have done.
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Doesn't a regular queen size mattress fit poorly because of the need for the curve at the head of the bed? Isn't the extra 5 inches in length restricting for walking at the foot of the bed? We need to replace our mattress but I didn't think a regular queen size would fit.
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01-27-2012, 07:39 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' Flying Cloud
2011 30' International
mooresburg
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 206
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we put a 3" memory foam topper and now its a great night sleep.
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01-27-2012, 11:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB International
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cathurston
Doesn't a regular queen size mattress fit poorly because of the need for the curve at the head of the bed? Isn't the extra 5 inches in length restricting for walking at the foot of the bed? We need to replace our mattress but I didn't think a regular queen size would fit.
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A standard size queen mattress fits great in our 27'FB (the bed runs fore and aft). While the clearance is slightly reduced at the foot of the bed, we haven't had any issues with it. However, I would recommend making the plywood base a little longer to give better support if you sit on the foot of the bed. We haven't noticed any problems with the way the mattress fits against the shell at the head of the bed. While this works well in our 27' trailer, I don't know how good the fit is on the 25'FB.
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2010 Toyota Tundra CrewMax, 5.7L V8, 4x4
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01-27-2012, 11:17 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Since the bed in the 25' is crosswise, the curve in the body at the head of the bed would cause a problem if a standard queen were used. We moved the mattress down after extending the plywood underneath and filled in the space between the mattress head and the wall. Then we could use standard queen fitted sheets instead of much more expensive RV sheets. This solved the shortness problem.
The OEM mattress was harder than hard and while that may have been okay 30 years ago, no longer. Thirty years ago I could sleep on the ground without a pad underneath, but not now. We put a 2" foam mattress topper on. They come in three grades of firmness and not knowing what we were doing, we choose medium and it is very comfortable.
After we bought it I learned about all the bad chemicals in foam and that it is not a good idea to buy it unless you get natural foam products. They are a lot more expensive. We haven't replaced it, but keep thinking about it.
Gene
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01-27-2012, 11:25 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Pearland
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 318
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A foam mattress topper was the first change we made to ours. Still not as soft as I'd like but its better than it was. Only thing about the foam mattress topper is its warm.
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01-27-2012, 11:52 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Some people say the toppers are too warm and other say nothing about it. Ours doesn't seem warm. Maybe different brands act differently.
It may help that we have turned off the heat in the bedroom. To do that we had to get registers that do turn off unlike the OEM ones. We found them on a website run by a Winnebago supplier. They also match the colors inside the trailer better.
Gene
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01-27-2012, 02:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1989 29' Excella
1979 31' Sovereign
1999 25' Safari
Youngsville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 345
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Our Solution
Our '89 Excella had a fullsize platform bed when we got her. Very flimsy spring mattress was awfull. The configuration was are joke, impossible to walk around and it wasted vast amounts of storage.
Our solution was to remove platform top and cut down the vanity table to the same height as the bed base. I installed 1"x1"X2" alum brackets around exterior walls at the height of the bed base every 12". Using 2 pcs of 1/2" BC plywood I screwed ply to old base and new brackets. To acess storage in old base I cut removeable ports in ply. I then made a cardboard template of new bed, which I brought to local matress mfg and had 2 foam matress' made (pricey but well worth it for a good nights rest). Then I ordered 2, 3" memory foam toppers that I cut to fit new matress'.
We could not be an happier and sleep better than at home. I'll try and post pic's.
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01-27-2012, 02:58 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2012 27' FB International
Athens
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 7
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Just ordered a custom mattress for my 2012 27' International. Got it from rockymountainmattress.com. I've got a very nice Tempurpedic at home and had them match that as best they could. Now sleeping in the airstream is amazing! I would never skimp on a mattress! Mattress was pricey. Around $1000, but I'd rather pay that than toss and turn all night!
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01-27-2012, 03:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
Fountain Inn
, South Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2011
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I guess we are lucky. We both really like the queen mattress that came in our 02 Safari 25B. I appears that it was not used much by the PO and is very good quality.
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01-27-2012, 04:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 410
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We love the firm mattress that came with our 05 Safari. Even at 63 I still like a very firm matress. Thank you Airstream! We have a sleep number bed at home and will get one for the Safari when this one gets old. BTW, my sleep # is 100.
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01-28-2012, 12:51 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
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Thanks to everyone for all the responses regarding the mattress in our 25' FB. We bought a topper today so will see if that helps. But eventually we will need to replace the mattress. I wake up to too much back/hip pain each morning from a painful night's sleep.
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01-28-2012, 08:25 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cathurston
We bought a topper today so will see if that helps. But eventually we will need to replace the mattress. I wake up to too much back/hip pain each morning from a painful night's sleep.
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I have back injury and the topper made a very big difference. You may not have to replace the mattress.
Gene
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01-29-2012, 04:15 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB International
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 8
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Thanks for telling me about Rocky Mountain Mattress. I plan to call them on Tuesday and will order a new mattress. The firmness of the OEM is not as much a problem of the firmness as it is with the fact that it's breaking down too quickly. I end up sleeping in a deep hole and wake up with terrible backaches. I wouldn't be surprised if Rocky Mountain Mattress already has a template for the 25' FB mattress (with all its curves). Thanks again.
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01-29-2012, 05:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
Yakima
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 424
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We too used a memory foam topper and even my wife (you remember the fairy tale the princess and the pea), is very comfortable with the queen in our 25 foot '97 Safari.
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