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Old 08-24-2014, 09:53 PM   #15
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I don't get the "view" from the dinette in the FB argument....if it's such a great view...GO OUTSIDE! . We are camping, not stuck in a closed suite overlooking the LV strip.

If you haven't guessed....I prefer the RB layout
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:13 PM   #16
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I don't get the "view" from the dinette in the FB argument....if it's such a great view...GO OUTSIDE! . We are camping, not stuck in a closed suite overlooking the LV strip.

If you haven't guessed....I prefer the RB layout
Not all of us are "camping" some of us are working and living, because we're full time.


I personally wish the 28 had come in FB configuration. I like the dinette on the side with the smaller L couch a lot. But the 28 also compromises in a few other areas I don't like. But if it was an option, I would of bought that.

Considering the length difference between the 27 & 28 I have wondered in the lack or reasoning why it isn't offered has something to do with weight distribution in those sizes.

The FB's tend to have heavier tongues. But I'm just guessing.

And FB all the way. I have no issues with privacy.

Our daughter is people watcher, she loves to sit on the bed and watch.



And my wife and I enjoy working with a view.

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Old 08-24-2014, 11:00 PM   #17
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Old 08-25-2014, 05:56 AM   #18
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Not sure why I choose the title "FB Or Nothing." If we had do overs, I'd change to "FB vs RB." If they didn't offer an FB at all, I would have been more than satisfied with a RB vs nothing. I'm somewhat surprised how strongly some feel about their choice. You would have thought the thread was a discussion on tow vehicles, tires, or corrosion!

I thought maybe weight distribution was also a reason for not making a 30FB but they make a 30FB Bunk. Maybe the bunks in back distribute some of the weight better.

And yes, I'd rather be outside enjoying the view. But full timing and being inside a certain percentage of each day at the dinette, the view becomes important.

We're at Illini State Park right now. The view is of the Illinois River. If I'm lucky this morning, a barge will come up or down the river with the sun rising over it's tug. I'd miss that if I was sitting up at the other end.
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:11 AM   #19
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I don't get the "view" from the dinette in the FB argument....if it's such a great view...GO OUTSIDE! . We are camping, not stuck in a closed suite overlooking the LV strip.

If you haven't guessed....I prefer the RB layout
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I love watching a storm over the ocean from the comfort of my recliner :-)
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:32 AM   #20
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Not sure why I choose the title "FB Or Nothing." If we had do overs, I'd change to "FB vs RB." If they didn't offer an FB at all, I would have been more than satisfied with a RB vs nothing. I'm somewhat surprised how strongly some feel about their choice. You would have thought the thread was a discussion on tow vehicles, tires, or corrosion!

And yes, I'd rather be outside enjoying the view. But full timing and being inside a certain percentage of each day at the dinette, the view becomes important.
It's probably strong because it comes down to what fit's people's lifestyles. Dkottum's post puts that into clarity for me, as it's the complete opposite of our lifestyle and I can't disagree anymore with it.

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We specifically choose a rear bed over front because

1) We don't think the single advantage of FB, view out the back, is meaningful.

2) The rear bed is more quiet and private in most campgrounds.

3) We often use large RV resorts in our 6 month winter trips where you may be backed up to the back of another RV, maybe a fifth wheel with a big window looking down into a FB.

4) We like seeing the people and activity out front.

5) The door is in front.

6) The floor plan of our RB works better for us, and allowed an easy conversion to recliners.
The interesting thing, I have been a backpacker for awhile and on some of the hiking forums, there is just the same type of strong opinion between the ultra-light backpackers and everyone else.

Just like those who think Airstreams' aren't camping.

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Old 08-25-2014, 07:45 AM   #21
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Most people like what the have best, then when they get something different, they like that best.
This is the truth and most people will defend their perfect choice to the end.
I just like Airstreams. We try to spend as much time as possible out of doors and the bedroom is for private time. I have never had trouble finding good views from an Airstream.
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It's probably strong because it comes down to what fit's people's lifestyles. Dkottum's post puts that into clarity for me, as it's the complete opposite of our lifestyle and I can't disagree anymore with it.
It probably fits your current lifestyle just fine but I can offer some experience. Your baby now moves about "10ft" each day and taking cute pictures of her looking out windows is fun. However, since you are full-timing in your trailer I can guarantee that very soon your daughter will quickly turn to a toddler that doesn't want to stop moving. Looking at the "view" from your dinette (while working) is going to move about 50 spots down the priority list and you'll desire more view of the camp side, where your daughter is running/playing etc.....other than the door, the living-room view out of 25/27 FB's to the camp side is very limited. I'm not being adversarial.....just injecting some parental experience and give you another angle to think about

As someone mentioned above, everyone has their own wants/needs and we choose what we want.....if everyone had the same needs AS would likely only sell one size/configuration
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Well Bold' we were backpackers too, traveled the world in a 30 year Navy career, still avid bikers and hikers every day. Can only give you the advice of 50 years travel and camping (a few backpacks, 4 VW Campers, one Scamp and two Airstreams, not counting Boy Scout and Scoutmaster) experience.

And we're amateurs compared to some on this forum. Careful to dismiss their advice.
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I thought the smilies indicated I was supporting others opinions, especially saying what fits your lifestyle.

And experience is experience, but not everyone always agrees thats the way you should be doing XYZ. That's why people always want to tell you their opinion and experience. And/Or dismiss yours.

I'll dismiss all advice that doesn't line up with my values or lifestyle. Otherwise, mind is open.

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We chose the 27 FB over the 28 rear bed primarily because of the layout.

The 28 RB has no pantry and practically no storage in the kitchen. You also have a strange short 1/4 wardrobe instead of the pantry. The seating area in the front, puts the dinette between the seating area and the TV. I like a closer more direct view of the TV without having to look over the dinette. The 28 has no night tables. Basically they are just wardrobes and there is no real table area next to the bed to place items. The wardrobes are smaller and not as long as the one big wardrobe in the 27 FB.

Since the 27FB and the 28RB are both 28 feet long there really is no difference in towing or maneuvering.
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We just chose a 2015 30' FB Bunkhouse (front and rear bedroom!)....
Come on Hibby, take a stand in this debate!!!!
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We have a 2008 Classic 25fb. Trying to buy preowned limits your choice. We figured this floor plan was a good compromise and it would have good resale. We didn't want go any bigger but we didn't have an opportunity to see a 25C, 28 or 25SS that was as nice as our Classic.

Some thoughts after owning our 25fb for over a year:

The view from the rear can be nice if you have the right campsite and it can be terrible if you don't have a good site.

All those windows the skylight, Fantasic Fan vent and port holes are nice but the back end heats up fast in hot weather. Forget about using the oven during the summer months. The front bedroom remains cooler since we keep the curtains and shades drawn most of the time and the AC blows right into that are. That is the prime reading area most of the time when outside not available.

No storage cabinets over the side couch due to the port holes.

The rear door of the FB limits how far you can back into a site. With the front door you can back up further to make room for your trailer and tow vehicle and still step into the campsite.

The dinette is great for eating/working but not lounging or watching TV. The Classic table is too heavy for my wife to lower and raise by herself and it find it overly heavy so putting it down to create a lounge doesn't happen often because I like to have the dinette available the next morning. Maybe if the table was lighter it wouldn't be an issue.

Its hard to watch TV from the gaucho or side couch cause you are forced to face the wrong way. My head hits the TV when trying to lay back on the fridge wall to read.

The side couch when made into a bed is not long enough for me (5' 10") so my feet extend to the adjacent dinette seat so making a bed with sheets is more challenging. Guess I need a sleeping bag arrangement.

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Come on Hibby, take a stand in this debate!!!!

Ha! Yes, I should weigh in here... But remember, I took the easy way out and bought the one with two bedrooms! I love the front bedroom because my dog sleeps in the back of my truck and he can wake me in the middle of the night with little to no effort. I also love the back bedroom, although the view is limited, because it makes a great "storage area" for bags/duffels/kid gear without cluttering the whole trailer.

Since I spent 80k on this, I think mine's the best one out there and the rest of you can feel the shame of having only one bedroom to rest your weary bones.

Oh, and the only view that counts is the one out the bathroom window, since that's where I spend WAY too much time reading and drinking coffee.




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