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Old 01-22-2016, 06:13 PM   #29
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Frame Pics & Converter setup

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Mine will have to be a little different to set up than yours. I have a grey tank and black tank. The input to the grey is at floor level, so I have to elevate the shower base. The tub had a slot in the floor cut for the P trap to go down and come up in. That seemed like a hassle, that is why I was looking at the HepvO trap. I do like seeing your pics, and I hope you don't mind me copyright infringing on some of your stuff. Here are some pics of my rear end. Don't share them with anyone they are kinda gross. I am really leaning toward removing that rear cross member. Since I have SO many things I can work on, I can just stare at that and engineer in between. My son has a plasma cutter and we both have wire and stick welders, so we will figure it out. Have a good weekend and hope the blizzard doesn't hamper you too much!

All the surplus wire in the photo will be gone unless someone tells me why there need to be so much slack!

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Old 01-22-2016, 09:44 PM   #30
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That rear cross member is the one with the rust and the two cutouts for drain valves? That you will need to either fabricate a new one or sister in some new material to beef it up. That ties the two side rails together and keeps it all rigid.

What the plumbing looks like will depend on what the tanks look like, where they mount and where your fixtures are located in the bath. When I redesigned it all, I spent quite a bit of time with the parts in place to visualize how it should all go back together.
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Old 01-23-2016, 11:25 PM   #31
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I have a center bath but I did post a video of the rear frame repair. The damage only extended into the rear about 20". Sistering was the way to go for me. Using standard grind it clean, and stitch weld, templates to make the parts. I added metal on both sides too. Youtube title some like: 1986 Airstream Frame Repair.

Good luck, everything looks great....
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Old 01-24-2016, 02:22 PM   #32
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Managed some work this weekend. Mostly worked on new well house. That was a project that was suppose to be done BEFORE winter. Done now though. This pic shows the new piece just sitting in place. Used the old piece for a template. Maybe my son will be free again next weekend.

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Old 01-28-2016, 06:42 PM   #33
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Hey String,

Aquanoob (Bob) is a terrific resource. I did my 72 Overlander and wound up tearing the entire bathroom out, rebuilding the last four ft of frame, re epoxying the fixtures, new C channel all the way around and rebuilding the bath. It's been a chore because I don't have the capacity to leave well enough alone and just kept going. It's been a little over two years, the last working only weekends and holidays and I am alllllmost finished 😜 Actually I will be done by March.

Some advice? While you have it apart spend the money and do it right. My black tank was cracked at the flange and galvanized pan that it sat in was a rusty mess. I bit the bullet bought a new tank, built a pan, rerouted the plumbing because I never want to see those things again. I also used the Hepco waterless P trap because I believe the less holes you have in your floor the better. I don't think it's gonna clog but if it does it is right where I can get to it easily to unclog or replace it. Anyway, that's my two cents. Also, I'm about the same age as you.

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Old 01-29-2016, 07:52 AM   #34
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Mine really was in pretty good shape other than that rear cross member. The pan is fine, but I have not checked out the tanks yet. I am taking my time and for sure am going back with it right. I have a mission to be through by next January for a trip to south Texas. A good friend has a trailer and we have a plan. I think I will make schedule.

Did you go back with original fixtures or a shower like Bob. I am still planning on using the Hepco, but have not decided what do with the total drain situation yet. I am waiting till I get the new shower pan.

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Old 02-03-2016, 10:58 AM   #35
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Hi String,

I refinished the original fixtures, but everything else is new. I like the Hepco because I didn't like the idea of cutting a large hole in the floor.

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Stringm, you're not that old! I've your elder by at least a year, and I'm building new upper cabinets. The more you work on the trailer, the better shape you'll be in.

Or you'll die in the process. But probably not!!!
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Stringm, you're not that old! I've your elder by at least a year, and I'm building new upper cabinets. The more you work on the trailer, the better shape you'll be in.

Or you'll die in the process. But probably not!!!
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:51 AM   #38
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I have noticed that my body does seem to be responding better with the work. I think when I made those age comments, I was telling Bob I was trying every way I could not to have to drop the belly pan. I was really dreading that because I assumed that it was all rivets, and not bolts. I can't lay on my back and try to focus on something without getting dizzy. Friend of mine tells me it's the trifocals. He has the same issue. I got it dropped though. In fact, if I could see better, it would make all of this easier. I keep having to slide my glasses up and down my nose to see a rivet head, or some other little treat. I am making progress on things a little at a time. I am not just staying in the bathroom area. I jump around.

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Old 03-03-2016, 06:09 PM   #39
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Floor Is In

I need to reorganize my shop and this thread. I need to start a trailer thread and put a link to this bathroom thread. I am doing more than the bathroom. The sub-floor in the bathroom is back in. Overlay is in but not secured, except in the very center of the front. It is amazing how much different the firmness is just with the additional 1/4 inch. Where it is screwed down, it is really sound. Plan to buy a water heater, toilet flange, and dump valves tomorrow. I am going to PPl in Cleburne to get them. Plan to look at shower pans. I have a trip planned to Gatesville to visit a restore site that has a shed of used parts. I still have to figure out new vs original. The floor rot and frame set me back on the bathroom, but I am getting closer to making a move.







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Looking great! Ever work for the telephone company as an office tech- the butt box looks familiar😃
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SWBT, Ericsson, DSC, Nortel, AT&T retired. That box is on loan from one of those places !!!

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