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Old 07-19-2013, 10:44 PM   #15
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There are plenty out there with the opinion that AS lost their way back in '63. "Oh the times, they are a changin'."
I am 100% sure that if every new trailer that was ordered today was delivered exactly like a brand new 1963 Airstream, the would be out of business in a few days...

Times have changed....
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:44 PM   #16
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I think Airstream has lost their way from their historic construction methods. They used to be known for getting the absolute maximum utilization of space in the units. Now it seems that their effort is to design the trailers so they can be built the quickest. I had a 1996 21' Sovereign and now have a 2007 27'FB Classic Limited. By the name Classic Limited you would think they had every option and the ultimate design details. My old Sovereign had for its day, better use of space, more storage and better construction than my current trailer. For example, there was already a spice rack in my old trailer and I had to build one for my newer trailer. Neither my old unit nor my current had a microwave so I had to add that as well.
My Classic has a spice rack just behind the stove. I thought they all did.
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:56 AM   #17
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I am 100% sure that if every new trailer that was ordered today was delivered exactly like a brand new 1963 Airstream, the would be out of business in a few days...

Times have changed....
I just wish our 03 Classic was delivered new to us in the same condition as our 63 Safari was in 1988.

Sorry but I feel your rong....time stays the same, it's the people who screw it up. Profit rules.

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Old 07-20-2013, 09:01 AM   #18
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My intention in declaring a loss of way in '63 was simply to go right to the extreme. If You see the loss of way as being when Wally died, or when Beatrice took over, or when Thor took over, any of these opinions neglect the sad reality that 1) people die and 2) had Beatrice and Thor not taken over, Airstream might not even exist as a company today and we would all be camping in 60's vintage trailers and SOBs.

Where design is concerned, some human made a decision. Some folks love the CCD models, some hate the DWR models. To each his own. Where quality is concerned, a Human puts his hand on every component that goes into these trailers. There is actual manufacturing going on in the Airstream plant, it is not just an assembly shop. As a result--you get human error and quality issues that can't just be "tested out."

We live with all of this because we like the trailers. They are not the most waterproof, durable, luxurious, or sometimes even practical--that's just part of the deal. Could they be better? I suppose. I am rebuilding my trailer right now, but sadly, my workmanship errors jump right out to my eye, and the finished design will very likely not have a spice rack, nor perhaps a microwave.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:15 AM   #19
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Rich, that is one of the things I like most about the new Airstreams. They are so bright and open looking. Mine is like stepping into a dark cave. Cozy and depressing at the same time.
I like my cave with fuzzy walls. That said, I would also like the 'wallpaper' part of the walls to be shiny aluminum. Oh well. Someday, perhaps, after the most uncomfortable sofa in the world is replaced, I'll initiate a renovation in the kitchen/bath area, and make it the way I want it. As far as quality is concerned, while some of the fit and finish with the valance's is questionable, I'm happy with my '99. It was all original when I bought it as a well lived in 11 year old, and still functions well now.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:22 AM   #20
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I would say they lost their their way the day that Thor took them over. .
I could be mistaken, but didn't Airstream create Thor?
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Thor was created after the two friends purchased Airstream and wanted to expand in the RV industry. I believe the four letters are those two people's initials.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:50 AM   #22
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I am trying to attach some pictures of the mods I have made to my trailer but they all say invalid file when I try to upload them. They are about 57KB each and are JPEG files. Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong or what I might try to find out?
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:52 AM   #23
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Rich, that is one of the things I like most about the new Airstreams. They are so bright and open looking. Mine is like stepping into a dark cave. Cozy and depressing at the same time.
I just bought a 1978 Sovereign and the interior was in really good shape...but we have spent most of our time trying to add light to this long, dark, aluminum tunnel! LOL
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:38 AM   #24
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I like my cave with fuzzy walls. That said, I would also like the 'wallpaper' part of the walls to be shiny aluminum. Oh well. Someday, perhaps, after the most uncomfortable sofa in the world is replaced, I'll initiate a renovation in the kitchen/bath area, and make it the way I want it. As far as quality is concerned, while some of the fit and finish with the valance's is questionable, I'm happy with my '99. It was all original when I bought it as a well lived in 11 year old, and still functions well now.
As some have mentioned, the joy of the Airstream family and history IS the wide variety combined with the handmade-in-America mystique. We, too, like our dark wood and fuzzy walls. We looked around for quite a while before we found "our" dream Airstream, well cared for by the P.O. We admire diversity in interior decorating styles. That's why we enjoy The Canopener every year so much.
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Hey, there's nothing wrong with different tastes. But the aluminum is what makes Streams different. I like to see that same look when I step inside. But to each their own. I don't mind the wood look on the partitions. The light "wood" contrasts nicely against the aluminum in my Sport. Too bad it isn't real wood though. But I am glad they use decent plywood instead of OSB. Maybe I should peel off the fake coating. I wonder if anyone has done that with the newer Streams.
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I could be mistaken, but didn't Airstream create Thor?
Yes and yes, in 1980, they then started acquiring other brands. Thor actually has a decent business plan compared to Fleetwood. If your brand gets taken over by Fleetwood it is just a matter of time before it will be gone. Thor manages to maintain brand identity.

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I am trying to attach some pictures of the mods I have made to my trailer but they all say invalid file when I try to upload them. They are about 57KB each and are JPEG files. Does anyone have an idea what I am doing wrong or what I might try to find out?
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Try using TinyPic.....if that works try contacting a Mod....or not.


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Old 07-20-2013, 02:41 PM   #28
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Thor was created after the two friends purchased Airstream and wanted to expand in the RV industry. I believe the four letters are those two people's initials.
Wasn't Thor tool co. factory in Aurora Il. a copy rite name? They made some fine electric tools. Bill
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