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Old 02-27-2015, 02:49 PM   #15
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Man those are nice looking cabinets, I highly recommend a strip, repair and refinish approach. She is immensely sought after even as is

But, she is all yours now to do what you want with her. But note that the value of her will go down with any alteration that takes her away from original. And if you decide to go for restored original you will get a much better return on your investment if you ever sell her.

I am working on an original '69 Safari restoration right now and without touching my original cabinetry and taking the time (LOTS of TIME) to strip and rebuild everything including all the minor and major appliances I am into the restoration for probably about 3.5 grand, including purchasing all the proper tools needed for working on an airstream. If you have leaks, your most important purchase will be a rivet removal tool and the Olympic rivet kit, both of which are available at Vintage trailer supply. You can also find every type of seal imaginable on the site to weatherproof your doors, vents and windows and access panels. They even have sell the special shaped seal to redo the inner part of your door within a door.

Go camping in her a few times, try to visit a rally and see a whole bunch of trailers if possible and after a few months see if it still feels right to gut nice old growth wood for made in China plywood and if you do go that route make damn sure you put the guts on the used classifieds because it would make many people very happy to be able to restore their baby to original condition

If your axles have not been replaced yet go to online and check Inland RV, there is an area on his website that helps you assess if they need to be done, if they do it's a pretty easy process to do that for under a grand will give you major peace of mind (get the complete kit that includes brakes etc)

Good Luck and enjoy!
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:32 AM   #16
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1960 24' Tradewind
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Thank you all for the great advice! Out trailer has been delivered and I'm trying to determine what items she'll require. Here's a shopping list. We had no idea it would costs so much to redo our 1960 Airstream! Your comments are appreciated!
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Title
Comments
Price
Quantity
Has
Priority

Norcold N510 UR 2 WAY Refrigerator
$984.33
1
0
Medium

Atwood (54106) Black Bi-Fold Cover
Offered by Boat and RV Accessories.
$52.40
1
0
Medium

Atwood CA-35 BPN 52756 3 Burner Slide-In Cooktop Black Top Piezo Ignition For Notched Counter
Offered by American RV Company.
$285.94
1
0
Medium

Camco 39761 RhinoFLEX 15' Sewer Hose Kit with Swivel Fitting
$29.97
1
0
Medium

JR Products 12245 Black Triple SPST On-Off Switch with Bezel
$13.87
1
0
Medium

Powermax 110 Volt to 12 Volt DC Power Supply Converter Charger for Rv Pm3-55 (55 Amp)
Offered by Advance MCS Electronics.
$116.63
1
0
Medium

Camco 25071 14" x 14" Universal Roof Air Conditioner Gasket Kit
$18.54
1
0
Medium

Dometic A/C Penguin II 13,500 BTU Roof Top Air Conditioner Upper Unit White 640315CXX1C0
Offered by Family RV Center II.
$699.00
1
0
Medium

Valterra RK909 ABS Tank Fill Kit with Threaded with Cap and Cement
$15.03
1
0
Medium

SHURFLO (255-313) 1/2" Twist-On Pipe Strainer
$8.99
1
0
Medium

Valterra R8072 8" x 16" x 72" ABS Water Tank
$155.00
1
0
Medium

New RV 21 Gallon Fresh Water Tank T-2100-1
Offered by classAcustoms.
$58.95
1
0
Medium

Eccotemp 03526-14A Flojet 2.9 GPM 50 PSI Water Pump
$55.05
1
0
Medium

Rheem RTE 13 Electric Tankless Water Heater, 4 GPM
$179.00
1
0
Medium

Siemens Q260 60-Amp 2 Pole 240-Volt Circuit Breaker
$10.88
1
0
Medium

VMAX857 AGM Battery 12 Volt 35AH Marine RV Deep Cycle HI Performance Battery ideal for boats and 18-35lb minn kota, minnkota, cobra, sevylor and other trolling motor (12V 35AH, GROUP U1)
Offered by bargainshore.
$109.99
1
0
Medium

See LeveL Tank Monitor 709
Offered by RVSUPPLIES.
$201.89
1
0
Medium

Worthington 297297 33-Pound Aluminum Forklift Propane Cylinder With Gauge And Fill Valve
$199.99
2
0
Medium

Fan-Tastic 803350 12V Vent
$237.84
1
0
Medium

Dicor EPDM Rubber Roof Lap Sealant, 10.3 oz, White 501LSW-1
Offered by Mobile Home Solutions.
$12.93
1
0
Medium

Dicor (BT-1834-1) 1/8" x 3/4" x 40' Butyl Seal Tape
$9.99
1
0
Medium

Thetford 33239 Closet Flange Seal
$7.47
1
0
Medium

Thetford 13168 Aqua Magic IV Water Valve
$22.50
1
0
Medium

Thetford 31667 Aqua-Magic V Toilet, High / Hand Flush / White
$112.16
1
0
Medium

Thetford (28962) Waterline Exterior Kit
$18.78
1
0
Medium

Suburban NT-30SP Electronic Ignition Ducted Furnace
Offered by TrailerRvParts by Johnson's Surplus.
$434.00
1
0
Medium

Honda Eu2000ia Companion Portable Generator. This Carb Compliant Unit Is Powerful and Super Quiet. Power Enough for Microwave, Refrigerators, Hair Dryer, Small Ac Units, and Much More
Offered by YourHomeGoodsStore.
$1,496.00
1
0
Medium

Honda EU2000i Super Quiet Portable Gas Powered Generator Power Inverter 2000, 120V
1
0
Medium

Rear View Safety Backup Camera System with Trailer Tow Quick Connect/Discon​nect Kit RVS-770613-213 (Black)
Offered by Rear View Safety Inc.
$299.99
1
0
Medium

Kidde KN-COEG-3 Nighthawk Plug-In Carbon Monoxide and Explosive Gas Alarm with Battery Backup
$43.87
1
0
Medium

Suburban 050715 4" Duct Collar
$7.63
1
0
Medium

Suburban 161154 Thermostat Wall Heat
Offered by TrailerRvParts by Johnson's Surplus.
$11.40
1
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:27 AM   #17
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Once you get head on in to it and see that getting your vintage rig up to snuff you'll see it is almost like owning a boat. Boat owners say if you want to know what its like to own a boat through a hula hoop in the water and keep throwing money into it...

Looking through my orders through vintage trailer supply I came up with some things I think you may need.

A few of the needed smaller items...

1 of : Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure $11.99
1 of : Rivet Removal Tool $39.99
1 of : 5/32" Olympic Riveting Kit $269.65
3 of : 5/32" Olympic Rivets w/ Washers (5-5) $67.47
1 of: TremPro 635 Polyurethane $7.62
1 of : Cyclo Cotton Terry Pad Cover - Pkg of 4 $14.52
1 of : Cyclo Foam Bonnet - Set of 2 $14.68
1 of : 1/4-Pound Grade S Nuvite $18.95
1 of : Cyclo Model 5-Pro Polisher $357.00
1 of : Walbernize RV Super Seal $13.99
1 of : Aluminum Pigmented Gutterseal $12.84
6 of : Airstream Plumbing Stack Cover $107.94
1 of : Walbernize RV Super Seal $13.99
1 of : 1963 Airstream Door Stop Gasket $11.49 for the door in a door
2 of : Hehr Locking Handle & Catch if you're missing any window latches $25.58
1 of : early 60's License Plate Light Bracket - Smaller $21.95

Add about $300 for the various gaskets, seals and weatherstrips

Then about 900 for a delivered axle from inland rv

And then don't forget to buy to very necessary Pewter Trailer Keyring from VTS, its only $11.50 but it will make you happy. Buy this item first...It will not be long before you think that you can no longer afford a 12 dollar item

I have a licenced mechanic with all the right toold in my house so with my girl we decided to rebuild / rewire all the operating systems so we saved an awful lot there




Adding it all up you can see why many people say to buy the best and most restored Vintage airstream that you can afford. It saves you money in the end
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:57 PM   #18
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shopping list for gutted 1960 24ft Land Y

Does this look like a good start???
Never thought it would cost so much.
AIRSTREAM SHOPPING LIST


Title

Price
Quantity



Norcold N510 UR 2 WAY Refrigerator
$984.33
1



Atwood (54106) Black Bi-Fold Cover

$52.40
1



Atwood CA-35 BPN 52756 3 Burner Slide-In Cooktop Black Top Piezo Ignition For Notched Counter

$285.94
1



Camco 39761 RhinoFLEX 15' Sewer Hose Kit with Swivel Fitting
$29.97
1



JR Products 12245 Black Triple SPST On-Off Switch with Bezel
$13.87
1



Powermax 110 Volt to 12 Volt DC Power Supply Converter Charger for Rv Pm3-55 (55 Amp)

$116.63
1



Camco 25071 14" x 14" Universal Roof Air Conditioner Gasket Kit
$18.54
1



Dometic A/C Penguin II 13,500 BTU Roof Top Air Conditioner Upper Unit White 640315CXX1C0

$699.00
1



Valterra RK909 ABS Tank Fill Kit with Threaded with Cap and Cement
$15.03
1



SHURFLO (255-313) 1/2" Twist-On Pipe Strainer
$8.99
1



Valterra R8072 8" x 16" x 72" ABS Water Tank
$155.00
1



New RV 21 Gallon Fresh Water Tank T-2100-1
.
$58.95
1



Eccotemp 03526-14A Flojet 2.9 GPM 50 PSI Water Pump
$55.05
1



Rheem RTE 13 Electric Tankless Water Heater, 4 GPM
$179.00
1



Siemens Q260 60-Amp 2 Pole 240-Volt Circuit Breaker
$10.88
1



VMAX857 AGM Battery 12 Volt 35AH Marine RV Deep Cycle HI Performance Battery ideal for boats and 18-35lb minn kota, minnkota, cobra, sevylor and other trolling motor (12V 35AH, GROUP U1)
Offered by bargainshore.
$109.99
1



See LeveL Tank Monitor 709
Offered by RVSUPPLIES.
$201.89
1



Worthington 297297 33-Pound Aluminum Forklift Propane Cylinder With Gauge And Fill Valve
$199.99
2



Fan-Tastic 803350 12V Vent
$237.84
1



Dicor EPDM Rubber Roof Lap Sealant, 10.3 oz, White 501LSW-1

$12.93
1



Dicor (BT-1834-1) 1/8" x 3/4" x 40' Butyl Seal Tape
$9.99
1



Thetford 33239 Closet Flange Seal
$7.47
1



Thetford 13168 Aqua Magic IV Water Valve
$22.50
1



Thetford 31667 Aqua-Magic V Toilet, High / Hand Flush / White
$112.16
1



Thetford (28962) Waterline Exterior Kit
$18.78
1



Suburban NT-30SP Electronic Ignition Ducted Furnace

$434.00
1



Honda Eu2000ia Companion Portable Generator. This Carb Compliant Unit Is Powerful and Super Quiet. Power Enough for Microwave, Refrigerators, Hair Dryer, Small Ac Units, and Much More

$1,496.00
1



Honda EU2000i Super Quiet Portable Gas Powered Generator Power Inverter 2000, 120V
1



Rear View Safety Backup Camera System with Trailer Tow Quick Connect/Discon​nect Kit RVS-770613-213 (Black)

$299.99
1



Kidde KN-COEG-3 Nighthawk Plug-In Carbon Monoxide and Explosive Gas Alarm with Battery Backup
$43.87
1



Suburban 050715 4" Duct Collar
$7.63
1



Suburban 161154 Thermostat Wall Heat

$11.40
1


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Old 03-02-2015, 02:07 PM   #19
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Make sure the propane tank has a gaseous propane outlet. Some fork lifts use liquid propane connection, which is not what you want on the AS.


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Old 03-02-2015, 05:50 PM   #20
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If you're planning on gutting and replacing the interior, instead of refurbishing what you have, don't forget to price out cabinets (which will add extra weight compared to the original) or plywood, aluminum channel and the tools to work them.

People have done all levels of refurbishment. It works best if they have a realistic idea of the money, skills and time they have at their disposal and the money, skills and time that the job will need.
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:00 PM   #21
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Oooh, I see a fridge in your shopping list...Does the trailer currently have a fridge and stove? I ask because if you have original appliances that you are thinking of writing off I am looking for an original fridge for my '63 Tradewind, dead or alive is fine, if the exterior is in good shape...
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:36 PM   #22
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Congrats on the delivery. I see tanks and electrical, which means a real gut job. I am guessing you will pull the shell? If you are going that deep into it may as well so you can make sure the frame is sound. I suggest you haunt eBay. I have gotten many great deals there (fridge, water heater, heat pump, etc.). You have an AC unit listed - go for the heat pump. Unless you are camping in weather below freezing, heat pump works great. Post more pics when you get a chance!
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:52 AM   #23
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She Arrived

She arrived from AK looking like she had a long 10 hour trip. Her insides are scattered about and most of the systems have been removed. We still plan to take her down to skin and renew her (not a shell off) but it's turning out to be way more expensive than we imagined (How much can you spend on a renewal and not lose your shirt?). We aren't even sure she's a Tradewind. Would she be marked? And what about the interior skin? My husband, a general contractor, plans to sub the plumbing and electrical work. What are your thoughts on closed cell spay insulation for wall and under carriage?

Thanks so much for sharing all of your experience and wisdom. This site has been so valuable!
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:21 PM   #24
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It looks like a Trade Wind. I think your serial number would define the model.
You must be happy it's in your driveway now. Or maybe not!

You can look in the classified section of these forums and gain examples of asking prices of similar trailers in similar conditions. The early sixties are good, the size of your trailer is good, it has a good shell, frame, axles, etc. The restored ones that look as they came from the factory are worth more. Renovated ones that are travel ready done by enthusiasts are worth less. But I should think your trailer nicely done would be worth high teens anyway.

Spray in foam insulation is not recommended by folks on these forums. The thinking is it tends to crumble with the vibration and jarring during towing. Many folks use foam board insulation under the subfloor, and various schemes between the walls. Airstream just puts in batting insulation. Mice love it, and it holds moisture real well.

Here is a picture of some 50 year old insulation out of my Trade Wind. Heck, you can even see some foam board insulation I put under the subfloor.

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Old 03-06-2015, 07:02 PM   #25
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Congratulations!!! Check out our blog on our tradewind below. Boatloads of money later but we love her!!! Take a deep breath and take your time. P.S. Keep the cabinets


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Old 03-18-2015, 12:15 PM   #26
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HELPPPPP. What have we done? This is a big job.

We found a local RV service shop that would be happy to help us with our restoration project but I need some more guidance. We plan to keep the exterior original but gut and modernize the interior (she needs all new-wiring, plumbing, insulation, flooring patched, systems, appliances, and cabinets). We also have some exterior areas (wheel well damage and a patch) that need to be addressed (also not sure about the recommended exterior repair suggested by the RV shop- don't fix the aluminum but use a black wheel curb or something like that ). My husband plans to remove the interior and then we would hand it off to the RV shop where it would be renewed. The RV shop charges around $95. hour and the owner (very experienced RV guy) will tell me where I can find the best prices on parts. We live in North Carolina.
What are your thoughts? PLEASE HELP. THANKS!!!

ALSO...Is she a Tradewind? She only has a Land Yacht Plaque.
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Old 03-18-2015, 02:41 PM   #27
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tradewind?

here are the markers
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Old 03-18-2015, 03:11 PM   #28
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Guessing this is for your water heater? RV parks do not normally supply 240 volts:

Siemens Q260 60-Amp 2 Pole 240-Volt Circuit Breaker
$10.88

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35AH is pretty low...
VMAX857 AGM Battery 12 Volt 35AH Marine RV Deep Cycle HI Performance Battery ideal for boats and 18-35lb minn kota, minnkota, cobra, sevylor and other trolling motor (12V 35AH, GROUP U1)
Offered by bargainshore.
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What is the VIN/Serial number on the placard?
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