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Old 11-01-2015, 08:34 AM   #81
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Thanks Gene. I now have a lot more to read. I live in my house made with SIPs. Six inch walls and 8 inch ceilings. That was the perfect match for this part of Texas. One of my Red Barns has closed sell spray foam and it is also very effective. In the Airstreams I have tried all but closed cell and am looking at it. Will, however check out you info....but, JEEZE its expensive. Stay tuned.
Did you notice the pictures of the stripped interior? The factory Guys used a generous amount of black adhesive to hold up the insulation. Impossible to remove. Do you think I could use reflectoflex as a clean shine outer layer, then come in with my regular insulation, thereby, getting an airspace and clean inner surface...?
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:43 AM   #82
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Airbrite poloish

I used Airbrite from Vintage Trailer supply as the polish on the inner aluminum cabinets. Let me tell you....the coarse level really cut the surface. So much so that I don't need to use the wheel as a first applicator...just go to the wool pad. Its use was more abrasive than I really wanted and now I do have to double up on the "polish" steps to get rid of abrasive marks. Those are probably a result of the sisal wheel, however. More to follow.
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Thanks Gene. I now have a lot more to read. I live in my house made with SIPs. Six inch walls and 8 inch ceilings. That was the perfect match for this part of Texas. One of my Red Barns has closed sell spray foam and it is also very effective. In the Airstreams I have tried all but closed cell and am looking at it. Will, however check out you info....but, JEEZE its expensive. Stay tuned.
Did you notice the pictures of the stripped interior? The factory Guys used a generous amount of black adhesive to hold up the insulation. Impossible to remove. Do you think I could use reflectoflex as a clean shine outer layer, then come in with my regular insulation, thereby, getting an airspace and clean inner surface...?

Mine too has a lot of the black stuff. Especially the end caps.

I really think the insulation probably does more for noise than heat. The ribs transfer so much heat. I do believe a non metallic rib would do the most for limiting heat transfer. Some people try to put a barrier between the inner skins and ribs. I am not sure how well this works if your rivets are tight. Some barrier on the ribs without compromise to the strength of the monocoque construction. I think too soft a barrier will allow movement if you cannot get the rivets tight. That is just my thoughts.

$50 fiber, $20 epoxy, homemade vacuum bag and we can make a rib. I will pay for the materials if you are willing to use it on one rib of your trailer for an experiment. 😀
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Old 11-05-2015, 12:38 PM   #84
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rainy day project

I never thought I'd see it rain again, until this recent rash of floods here. Tornados and rain today so I am inside instead of under the Liner out front of the Barn. I made up the rolled edges I plan to use for the belly pan replacement.
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:10 PM   #85
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So, what radius did you make the wrap arounds? And how did you get them so good?

I used piece of large diameter plastic pipe and rolled the aluminum around it the best I could. Maybe you have a rolling machine in that red barn of yours. Or you formed it with your tailgate.

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Old 11-05-2015, 08:49 PM   #86
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not a day for work outside

The roll reminds me of the old Mexican woman who worked at Warnek Hat store down on the border. She would steam the brim of a new hat and use her belly to form the curve of the brim. It was the perfect curve. Funny how that brim got wider every year....for the twenty years I got hats from them.
I just made a cardboard template, used a roller and then a brake to make the top 2inches flat. I'm still hoping it all works out.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:51 PM   #87
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storms coming in

Tornados skipped over me. Got lots of areas around the Barn, however.
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Wow, that is a big thunderhead. We heard on the news about all the severe weather Texas has experienced of late. Bad drought a couple of years ago, and now bad floods and tornados. You folks need to get back to good old boring weather.

Thanks for the description of forming the belly wraps. I've bent aluminum over my knee once or twice, but never my belly. Forming my wrap with a large diameter plastic pipe wasn't the greatest method. It was just a 6 foot section behind the wheels that got bent up when I ran over a truck tire tread on the highway. I have used a roller in a metal shop before. But I never have tried an English wheel. Metal working would be very interesting to me.

Glad the storms missed your ranch.

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Old 11-10-2015, 09:28 AM   #89
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Door hinges for a door within a door entry

Vintage Trailer Supply won't carry any more. Where can I find a Fabrication Shop to make some for us...?
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:26 AM   #90
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while the pan is being worked

I have all the wood interior pieces out and stripped. Am replacing all the original cabinets with new ash as original.....originals had to many drill and nail holes for my liking. The doors and drawer fronts will be reused. The cabinet framing will be replaced too..damaged on removal.
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Building cabinets is a key piece of any Airstream renovation. Maybe woodworking was a hobby of yours at one time. You do very good work.

I can get through the mechanical work pretty good, but I am no good at cabinet making and finishing.

Did you find someone to make your hinges, or did you just make them yourself?

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Old 12-17-2015, 07:01 PM   #92
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those old cabinets

Hi Becky....those are the original cabinets I am rebuilding and refinishing. Overtime I look at the original pictures I wonder why I was not satisfied. I like work I guess.
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when you have to many old Airstreams

I get confused on which projects I am on. Five old Airstreams an a few old cars.....oops! keep on track
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Hi Becky....those are the original cabinets I am rebuilding and refinishing. Overtime I look at the original pictures I wonder why I was not satisfied. I like work I guess.
Even the last picture?? Well, they look pretty darn good in the picture! But, you can probably see imperfections in real life that don't show up in the pix. I know I'm a stickler for beautiful finishes, and you're probably the same! I really like this trailer :-)
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It s back from the "Doctors"

My C channel was just beyond repair and the new Belly pan required a two man operation.....so I had to take the Liner into a Friends shop. Two months later I got it all back and am ready to start again. The Pan and Channel work are superior, by the way. I sat in side it yesterday and tried to visualize where I am going with the interior....then pulled out the interior I got....from a 2016 Cloud FB. Placed it in different spots and narrowed the decisions . Then I sealed all the seams inside in prep for the insu;action, wiring and new anodized panels.
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I imagine the shell was lifted to install the new C channel. I'm glad you got your old Liner back in good shape.

That 57 Chevy sure looks nice next to the Liner. I suppose that is what you worked on while the Liner was away.

We were at an RV show admiring the new Airstreams. That "U" shaped dinette you found from a new trailer is what my son thinks would work well in his 69 Globetrotter. We saw one at the RV show. The table drops down making a fairly nice bed. The table pedestal was a robust contraption, much stronger, less wobbly than the other trailers we looked at with "U" shaped dinettes. So that is the design idea we have for the front dinette in his Globetrotter.

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I imagine the shell was lifted to install the new C channel. The old Airstream ads show two men lifting a shell. So yes, it is a two man operation. I'm glad you got your old Liner back in good shape.

That 57 Chevy sure looks nice next to the Liner. I suppose that is what you worked on while the Liner was away. Tow vehicle?

We were at an RV show admiring the new Airstreams. That "U" shaped dinette you found from a new trailer is what my son thinks would work well in his 69 Globetrotter. We saw one at the RV show. The table drops down making a fairly nice bed. The table pedestal was a robust contraption, much stronger, less wobbly than the other trailers we looked at with "U" shaped dinettes. So that is the design idea we have for the front dinette in his Globetrotter.

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Sounds like the very hard, heavy work is finished! I like the colors of the new furniture. Guess you won't need a black tank with your special commode! Haha!😀
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