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02-01-2014, 11:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,270
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The silver looking stringers are they made out of aluminum or galv steel?
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02-01-2014, 11:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1936 20' Clipper
1947 22' Liner
Curtis Wright
1989 37' Airstream 370
marshfield
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 789
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That frame assembly is truly a thing of beauty. Nice work!!
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02-02-2014, 06:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 23' Safari
Niagara on the Lake
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 984
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Great looking frame,
If you use POR15 you have to use their metal prep cleaner first.
Have you considered having the frame powder coated?
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2005 Toyota Tundra SR5
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02-02-2014, 06:31 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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the springs are new, so is the hardware, u-bolts and so on. I was planing on using the existing axle, but replace the entire backing plates with new ones. old drums are good. Any objections on this ?
I do plan on getting the welding on all pieces done today, so i can disassemble it and paint the steel.
I will post some more later.
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02-02-2014, 06:46 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AldeanFan
Great looking frame,
If you use POR15 you have to use their metal prep cleaner first.
Have you considered having the frame powder coated?
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I was reading somewhere , you can use the Chassis coat directly on Steel without primer.. thats while i only bought the chassis coat and not the rust coat. Any advice?
And if primer is needed, can i just get some self etching primer from the auto parts place or do i need to use the por 15 product ?
I do not plan on powder coating, as i can not get the outrigger off the center pipe after welding.. plus its overkill i believe.
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02-02-2014, 08:07 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by submariner
the springs are new, so is the hardware, u-bolts and so on. I was planing on using the existing axle, but replace the entire backing plates with new ones. old drums are good. Any objections on this ?
I do plan on getting the welding on all pieces done today, so i can disassemble it and paint the steel.
I will post some more later.
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I would get a complete new axle. You wouldn't want to do all this work and then break a spindle off of an old axle. Broken spindles are not uncommon.
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Work is never done, so take time to play!
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02-02-2014, 09:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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Do what Lance said. The old spindles are a real problem to find appropriate bearings for....impossible if your on the road. Original had a 4 inch drop...I suggest a new straight axel ASSEMBLY...mounted below the springs. You will get all the new brakes, hub and hardware and extra ground clearance (which you will appreciate.) It will be cheaper too.
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02-02-2014, 10:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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Mhh, new Axle? well i did not plan on getting a new axle, and i do not want to increase the ground clearance much as i want to keep the original appearance as much as possible. New Axle would also mean new rims and different tire size.. I have to check on that one..
got to see, if i maybe get a dropped spindle axle.. it would definitely be installed on top of the leaves.
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02-02-2014, 12:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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The first gas station you pull out of. typical gas station with a n elevated drive, your pipe will be trashed and you will always wonder where the force has taken effect. A new axel has no effect on wheels and tire size...you pick what you want when you order it.
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02-02-2014, 01:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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I was under the impression, that i will not be able to purchase new axles with the correct bolt pattern for my rims?
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02-02-2014, 01:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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well, did some more work today. All frame parts are aligned and tacked in place. had to take some photos, before i take it back apart to finish the welding and paint.
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02-02-2014, 01:33 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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frame is back apart,
was fairly easy though.
I cleaned up for today and will continue next weekend, as i have a regular job during the week
please feel free to comment with any advice you might have.
thanks
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02-03-2014, 04:49 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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axle question
does anybody know, what size axle i need ? talking about weight rating though.. thanks
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02-21-2014, 05:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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i have been working some more the last couple weeks.
The frame is entirely welded out and then painted 2 coats of por15 rust protection and 1 coat of semi gloss chassis paint... someone surely could have told me, not to get that paint on your skin... what a mess..
After pre assembling everything with bolts, i started to rivet all cross members with 1/4 rivets.. that took a while as well, as there are 300 rivets in this frame..
here some of the pictures i took during my progress :
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02-21-2014, 05:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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Next project i did last week was the floor.
I used 5/8 plywood and cut it to size, first per template i made and then verified both end pieces under the shell, to make sure, my curves are correct.
After everything was verified, i epoxy coated both sides of the floor.. took 1 gallon of resin per side..
here some more pictures:
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02-21-2014, 05:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 26' Overlander
Tulsa
, Oklahoma
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 376
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Very nice!
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02-21-2014, 05:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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I decided to use is a Bulldog pipe frame hitch. Heavy duty with 2 5/16 ball size. The OD of the pipe was 2 1/4. I welded a short sleeve of 2 1/2 schedule 80 pipe on top and then a sleeve of 3 schedule 80 pipe. both sides are welded solid. this was a tight fit, but worked good.. Both sleeves brought me up to the 3 1/2 ID of the pipe frame.. The assembly was then welded solid to the frame.. this should hold the camper i guess ... tomorrow i will clean up the welds and paint the hitch.. then i start assembling the floor and work on the new c-channel this weekend..
as usual, i keep the pics coming:
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02-21-2014, 08:08 PM
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#38
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4 Rivet Member
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 263
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Very clean work! Looks amazing!
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02-22-2014, 05:56 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1989 34' Limited
long beach
, Mississippi
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 464
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thank you for the compliment.
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02-22-2014, 11:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1936 20' Clipper
1947 22' Liner
Curtis Wright
1989 37' Airstream 370
marshfield
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 789
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Absolutely beautiful work!!! That has got to be about as good as it can get.
Your choice of the Bulldog coupler provides the period correct "streamlined look" with a very functional contemporary piece. Great execution!!
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