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Old 10-18-2019, 07:25 PM   #1
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Top Pantry Opening on the Road-27 FB FC

We have a Flying Cloud 27 FB model.

The pantry is a triple door stack.

Bottom and middle are both pull-out type and have a push-button positive push button latch. No problems there.

The top section is a hinged door with 2 shelves behind the door.

We have had the door get pushed open while driving, spilling the contents all over. I assume that these contents are quite literally pushing the door open.

What solutions have users come up with to prevent this from happening? Ideally I would like a solution that is not ugly.

One idea would be to do some type of netting inside the cabinet for each shelf individually to prevent the contents from pushing the door.

Anyone have any other ideas?
Or any ways to secure the door besides ugly plastic baby proofing products?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:20 PM   #2
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We have a Flying Cloud 27 FB model.

The pantry is a triple door stack.

Bottom and middle are both pull-out type and have a push-button positive push button latch. No problems there.

The top section is a hinged door with 2 shelves behind the door.

We have had the door get pushed open while driving, spilling the contents all over. I assume that these contents are quite literally pushing the door open.

What solutions have users come up with to prevent this from happening? Ideally I would like a solution that is not ugly.

One idea would be to do some type of netting inside the cabinet for each shelf individually to prevent the contents from pushing the door.

Anyone have any other ideas?
Or any ways to secure the door besides ugly plastic baby proofing products?

Thanks in advance.
Piggy Bank, I feel your pain! We found the two drawers under the sink in our 27’ GT on the floor after a trip in the Rockies.

Credit goes to nryn for finding a magnetic lock that works great - and does not change the outside appearance of the cabinet.

Check out post #18 for photos: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f543...te-199643.html

The locks can be disabled during use and only locking during travel.

The other option is to add another latch to help hold it close. I found some on Amazon that look like the Airstream versions but with more strength. They rate them in pounds of force to open.

Hope that helps!
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:32 PM   #3
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The typical "latch gizmos" on the doors and drawers are a common RV item. You can buy them on Amazon or from a number of trailer outfits. They come in a wide range of pull strengths ranging from "pathetic" to "I need a crowbar". They are pretty cheap.

It just takes a screw driver to swap them out. Indeed there are probably some with a different screw pattern on them, if so I've been lucky so far.

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Push Button Rim Latch

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/push...ch-chrome.html


Installed this a few years ago had no problem since, also installed this shelf.
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:20 PM   #5
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Two solutions I have found for identical problem (Remember, the door is not springing open. It is being pushed open by the contents sliding and pushing it open from the inside. In my case it was our single-serve Keurig.))
1. Simple, field expedient. Cut a 1x2 appropriate length to bridge the shelf, side to side, behind the door. Use some double sided tape to hold it in place.
2. More exotic. Ask the parts man at your Airstream dealer to order a latch identical to the one on the other two doors. You must still put a 3/4 inch lip on the bottom shelf for it too catch on, put it will look nice.
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:21 AM   #6
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You would think

I see issues with this being posted quite often. You would think that the AS people would come up with something that actually works for drawers and shelves on a moving trailer. Everyone seems to have to deal with this eventually, and it's really annoying given what we pay for these things.
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I hold the door closed with a shock cord while traveling.
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:47 AM   #8
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Try Shower Adjustable Shower Rods

Not a very elegant solution, but we use adjustable shower rods to keep things closed, e.g. the floor drawer by our 27FB entry door, our pantry door and sometimes, the door above the pantry (the one you are having trouble with).

Just extend the shower rod to whatever length you want and then wedge it between the culprit door and a surface across the hallway. Works great if you don't want to experiment with stronger latches.

I agree that Airstream can do much better with their latch choices and for the money we're already paying, should not be cutting corners in a manner that introduces an unnecessary, chronic and aggravating problem.
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:02 AM   #9
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I saw one of the Vintage trailers at Doswel where the owner had added Permanent Magnets to hold the flip up door closed. Others simply doubled up on the spring cylinders

i have lost more than half of my Corel dinnerware to the floor of the trailer in shards that I'm still recovering from under the couch. I plan to investigate this as a possible solution. In the mean time I fold up a tea towel and tuck it under the bottom layer of dishes then flip up the rest over the front of the stack...so far it is working
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:18 PM   #10
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Drawers and cabinet opening

We bought some light weight bungie cords. Tie the kitchen 4 drawer stack and the wardrobe door together. Problem solved
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:41 PM   #11
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We have a Flying Cloud 27 FB model.
The pantry is a triple door stack.

What solutions have users come up with to prevent this from happening? Ideally I would like a solution that is not ugly.
I'll assume your three cabinets are similar to mine on the 26, two with button latches and one with a catch.
First, I found a scrap of white carpet and cut it to fit the cabinet. That pretty much stops things from sliding. (I also did that in the drawers where I keep pots and pans) I also added some non skid shelf liner.
Then I replaced the 4 lb. latch with the exact match, except in a 10 lb. pull. Seriously, I can't tell a lot of difference...but....
Airstream uses 'Southco' and I only replaced the part with the spring. Holes all lined up.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Some folks were having trouble with the button drawers sliding open. I didn't, but I still made some insurance. I cut a 3/4" dowel about 26" long and put rubber cane tips on it. I cut it to fit snugly between the drawer and the bathroom door opposite. Nothing moves.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:59 PM   #12
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Let's try a different approach. Maybe, maybe, lowering your tire pressure by 5, 10 ..... And see if lowering the PSI will give your rig a smoother ride.
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:25 PM   #13
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Thanks for all of the ideas.

Think I will start with the obvious but not there now rubber non-slip liner on the shelves. As Homer Simpson says "d'ohh!"

Then I am considering something like netting inside the cabinet to cover the opening when in transit. My reason for this consideration would be that it would not be visible from the outside and would not require any holes in the door front.

I am intrigued by the tension rod across the aisle idea also.

Molly's dad-thanks for the amazon link on the spring catch. I need to get one anyway for under the bench. Might as well get a couple.
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Pack differently?

I have not had that problem. I'm thinking it's because I keep light/boxed stuff in that upper cabinet. Most often it's loaded with cereal boxes, bags of ground coffee and such.

One solution might be a rearrangement of where you load stuff to put battering-ram items below and lighter, fluffy things (a bag of marshmallows for the 's'mores?) above.
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I have not had that problem. I'm thinking it's because I keep light/boxed stuff in that upper cabinet. Most often it's loaded with cereal boxes, bags of ground coffee and such.
Mine has dishes. Once I found all my new Corelle dishes on the floor! Thankfully, it's on carpet and none broke.
I'm sure the door doesn't open because the trailer bounces up and down, it opens because one side of the roadway has a dip and the other side doesn't, causing a 'snap roll' as pilots would call it. Everything gets tossed sideways.
Since I put the non-skid in and changed the latch to a 10 lb. spring nothing has moved.
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I had the identical problem in our 23' and corrected it by installing the push button latch Airstream uses for the slide out pantry cabinet. Now my biggest problem is remembering it is there and pushing on the button before pulling on the handle. Only seldom now do things fall out at my feet when I open the door. I had expected it to become a booby trap, only to be released when you open the door the first time after each day's travel.
Thinking about the sprung pole idea, rather than a shower curtain size, maybe (if they're still available) you could get a window sized tension rod and insert it inside the cabinet. That would stop items inside from "knocking" on the door.
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:47 AM   #17
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maybe (if they're still available) you could get a window sized tension rod and insert it inside the cabinet. That would stop items inside from "knocking" on the door.
The cabinet in question would not require a latch if contents can be controlled as you suggest.
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Old 10-20-2019, 11:58 AM   #18
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We had the same problem.

I replaced the latch with a non-magnetic touch latch from Rockler Woodworking there part# number 92891 420622 S# 400000928913. The latch is a positive latch, to open, push on door and latch releases door to open.

I think there is another issue, as I had small things fall of couch while driving. I think the pressure is to high for the GVW and these tires and this makes the rougher ride, I lowered my tire pressure to the pressure Goodyear has on the chart for the tire size and GVW. I now have less bounce damage.
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We were able to fix our cabinets with child proof locks that can be released when the trailer is in one place. It also helps to have a very "slip proof" cabinet/drawer liner under anything that is apt to wander during travel...I used a piece of a yogo mat and nothing wanders anymore.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (we also use these in our home as earthquake locks!)
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We bought some light weight bungie cords. Tie the kitchen 4 drawer stack and the wardrobe door together. Problem solved
Likewise, we bungee all the lower cabinets and the wardrobe.. No problem with the the upper cabinets yet, but they have double spring latch closures.
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