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11-16-2017, 03:00 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 30' Flying Cloud
brooklyn
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 15
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Stove/Range Fan Intermittently Stops Working
Hello,
I have a new (2018) 30 foot Flying Cloud bunk.
We've experienced about a dozen or so times the fan for the stove just stops working. This is when plugged in to otherwise properly working shore power (50a).
Generally it just stops. Next time we want to use it it works fine. We don't notice any other electrical problems.
Nothing on our fuse panel trips. I've read about other fuses in the hood itself, however since it works later I'm not sure this is the problem either.
It has occurred in a range of temperatures and humidity, however I'm not sure either of those would be impacting this?
Thanks in advance for any troubleshooting help.
Best,
Joe
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11-17-2017, 06:12 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 22' FB Sport
2018 27' Flying Cloud
2021 30RB Classic
Currently Looking...
Fredericksburg
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 306
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Is your exhaust flap on the outside of your AS unlocked? Excessive static pressure on EC motors may overheat them to the point where they will shut themselves down.
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11-17-2017, 08:12 AM
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Airstream Ambassador
Jackson Center
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 742
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Hi Joe,
We're sorry to learn about your Stove/Range fan issues you described in your 2018 30' Flying Cloud. Please call our customer service and technical support team at*1 (877) 596-6111, option 2 so we can learn more and help.
Thanks.
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Airstream Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached at 1 (877) 596-6111, option 1.
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07-13-2018, 09:39 AM
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New Member
MidLAND
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 3
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Lock on Range hood outlet
I had the same issue.
2018 Globetrotter.
Range hood vents to the side of the camper.
There are 2 little plastic clips that lock the exhaust flap.
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07-13-2018, 02:11 PM
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 2,157
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The fan has a thermostat that shuts down the fan due to heat. Happens especially when all three burners are on. Works again after it cools. Obviously exacerbated if the locking tabs on the flap outside the trailer are not unlocked so the flap can open, as mentioned in earlier comments.
Some have elected to have the thermostat switch bypassed.
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08-12-2019, 09:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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This is an old thread. And maybe this issue has been dealt with before.
I had same problem today when the vent fan on the exhaust hood quit working. Wife had 3 burners going on the stove making breakfast. First time this happened. Later the fan went on.
1). Is this a common problem with these fans?
2). If this isn’t common is it a heat sensor issue?
3). If heat sensor issue how does one replace it?
4). If not a heat sensor issue what are some steps to prevent it from happening? (Besides cooking outside).
The outside vent flap was open by the way.
One would thing that this would be taken into consideration when developing the vent?
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08-12-2019, 10:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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There is an excessive heat sensor that is supposed to cut off the fan to prevent spread of a fire. It sounds like the sensor temperature is set a bit low, but typically they are made at a fixed temperature. If you can find it, check the part number and replace it with one that opens at a slightly higher temperature. Typically looks like a tiny black ‘hockey puck’ with a couple wires connected to it and a metal base that is screwed down somewhere in the path of the air going through the vent.
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08-12-2019, 11:19 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Keep open...👍
Bob
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08-13-2019, 01:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Stove/Range Fan Intermittently Stops Working
I’d bet blocking it open fully might increase air flow and reduce the heat on the sensor.
Bob, I’m a just tiny touch disappointed.
Aren’t we supposed to use duct tape or baling wire for stuff like that?
If course if my DW was involved, there’d be a precisely broken piece of a bamboo chopstick wedged in there neatly instead.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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08-17-2019, 07:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,969
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Thank you all for posting this info.
We experienced this on our recent trip, also while cooking breakfast with all 3 burners being used.
Glad to hear its a no big deal thing, and we will try clipping open the outside flap if we continue to have this problem.
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09-09-2019, 07:36 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 28
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Mine Is Running, but low power and fluctuating
One burner on tonight. Mine just started acting up again (This is my second motor in it.) I'm in the club with you others - 2017 - This time it's running slowly and speeding up and slowing down - power fluctuation. Outside hatch open, yes. Plugged into reliable 50 amp service, everything else running fine. Battery voltage holding steady. What the heck?
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09-10-2019, 08:12 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 28
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What the heck?
Next morning....it runs fine. What the heck?
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09-10-2019, 08:27 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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AS has violated the minimum distance that the fan height should be from the burners by about 6-8 inches depending. That is a factor as to why it is shutting off. The other is that in this case, there is no "stack" to catch on fire, so the safety aspect of shutting it down really only makes sense to protect the motor bearings of the fan. But either way, it is a problem that surely needs to be corrected.
My understanding (which I didn't have time for when I was at JC) is that AS just removes the sensor completely and it runs like any other fan would.
Worse case, over time, the motor eats itself.......cheap to replace and easy to install as it is just under the metal screen/grease guard.
It freaked us out too when it happened and just did it again (shut off) last weekend....I will be removing the temperature sensor in mine soon. Will update with pictures when I do.
Greetz
Chris
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10-03-2019, 01:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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As stated in this thread the vent over the stove has a tendency to shut down the fan when 3 burners on. I went outside and the flap was totally open. Clearly it is the thermostat since after it cools it works again.
Called Airstream and there is really no fix for it (such as a different thermostat). But that's what they said. The other option is simply not have a thermostat. Not sure I'm completely comfortable with that either.
1) Has anyone disconnected it? What does it entail?
2) Has anyone put in a different thermostat rated for higher temperatures?
Frankly it is a real pain when it quits. Moisture builds up inside. Also the smoke alarms go off. In the past we just opened the ceiling fan, but when it is raining out that doesn't work.
Any suggestions would be helpful.
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01-24-2020, 12:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member
West Palm Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 75
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Bumping this thread for suggestions on a fix or a workaround. We cooked using only ONE burner for the first tome yesterday, after maybe 5 minutes the fan shut off and wouldn’t turn back on for a couple hours. And the vent was open...
Has anyone removed or disconnected the thermostat? I’m okay with doing so. I’d rather burn out the motor and replace it as needed than deal with the routine clean up of moisture on the aluminum interior while cooking.
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01-24-2020, 02:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daquenzer
As stated in this thread the vent over the stove has a tendency to shut down the fan when 3 burners on. I went outside and the flap was totally open. Clearly it is the thermostat since after it cools it works again.
Called Airstream and there is really no fix for it (such as a different thermostat). But that's what they said. The other option is simply not have a thermostat. Not sure I'm completely comfortable with that either.
1) Has anyone disconnected it? What does it entail?
2) Has anyone put in a different thermostat rated for higher temperatures?
Frankly it is a real pain when it quits. Moisture builds up inside. Also the smoke alarms go off. In the past we just opened the ceiling fan, but when it is raining out that doesn't work.
Any suggestions would be helpful.
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I made the change to mine to solve this.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...ms-140495.html
Starts at post 50.... let me know if that can help you.
Chris
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02-03-2020, 05:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 28
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Update on this thread. I ended up getting my range hood replaced (Airstream did it under warrantee even though I was past warrantee because I had trouble with the hood since soon after purchase). They put a new model of hood in and it works great. Those 2015-2017 era hoods are just simply defective.
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02-03-2020, 06:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Providence
, Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by memph
Update on this thread. I ended up getting my range hood replaced (Airstream did it under warrantee even though I was past warrantee because I had trouble with the hood since soon after purchase). They put a new model of hood in and it works great. Those 2015-2017 era hoods are just simply defective.
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What are the details of the hood? Make/Model? Got a pic?
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02-04-2020, 07:07 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 28
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Range Hood Replacement
Quote:
Originally Posted by kittmaster
What are the details of the hood? Make/Model? Got a pic?
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The replacement is the one that comes in the newer Airstreams. It's the same manufacturer - Baraldi - as the previous one from 2017, just newer model. Sorry, don't have model number info, but here's a photo. ... Actually, opened it up and here's some info in an attached photo for you.
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02-04-2020, 08:38 AM
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2 Rivet Member
West Palm Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 75
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I’ll have to check mine out. We have a 2020 Airstream and still have issues with the fan turning off. My current workaround has been to tape the outside vent door open while in use and only use the front burner. So far so good doing that. But if we try to use one of the back burners, even one at a time, it cuts out after 5 minutes.
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