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Old 05-10-2016, 11:38 PM   #1
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Looking at FC 25FB - Thoughts?

So this could be crazy and if so I would love your input from those who have been in similar situations.

Currently we have a honking 40ft 5th wheel which is fantastic at camp but its really just too big. No issues towing it or anything and its about 11k dry with 4 slides.

When we camp its normally my wife, 3 yr old and 9 yr old, and about 3 times a year we will have my Mom or In Laws with us.

All that said we are mainly outside when we are camping, either kayaking, boating, hiking, etc... . The only time we are inside is for sleeping or when it rains.

Now here is the question. Have I lost it wanting to switch to a 25ft airstream? Personally I think its much less overkill and would be far better for long pulls out to some of the state parks we have wanted to go see. My concern really is the sleeping comfort of the dinette when converted and how well does it really sleep?

My other question is how will the tow be behind my F250? Its a 2016 and handles the 5th wheel with ease. Lastly I really don't want to deal with sway bars again as our old set up was a 9k lb 30ft Flagstaff pulled behind a gas burner 3/4 suburban.

Thanks for any insights you might have about the tow, sway bars, and on occasion how it would work out sleeping 4 adults and two kids in something like the 25FB.

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Old 05-11-2016, 04:50 AM   #2
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That's a big change from 40' to 25', but there is certainly enough sleeping room for your family. After having a 30', we just bought a 25' FC. Storage is what you get with larger units, but if you use your truck bed well, it can be done. When you have company, it will get tight. Some people take a tent in those situations and camp out with the kids. I pulled the 30' with a Nissan Titan 25,000 miles across Canada on a fishing trip (www.fishacrosscanada.com) and did fine, so you will do fine with the F250. We just go slower and gear lower up and down mountains.
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:39 AM   #3
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That is a pretty large drop from a 40ft to a 25ft. My wife and I opted for a 30ft and we don't plan on entertaining guests - the dinette bed does not look very comfortable. It all depends on your needs for privacy and expectations. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:24 AM   #4
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

As to your question, that's a very tall order for a 25 foot Airstream. We Are very familiar with the 25FB. Over the last ten years, we have camped in our Airstream for 1,700 nights, and have towed it 150,000 miles. We camped most often with just the two of us. Even adding just two small grandsons make it noticeable tight. Adding two children and a couple of additional adults would make it a place that I would not want to be. To each their own, of course.

In my opinion, you might have a shot in a 30 foot bunk model.

Good luck in your endeavor.

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Old 05-11-2016, 07:34 AM   #5
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Welcome to the forum!

Having owned a 25' and now a 20' I agree with Brian that the 25' is probably smaller than you would be happy with.

Downsize? Yes. Length TBD.

Are you near an AS dealer? Seeing the actual models under consideration is worth a drive or air flight of a few hours if you are serious. Tie the trip in with a vacation maybe?

You can spend many many hours here getting opinions, but analysis paralysis can set in rapidly.

Go visit your dream in person IMO.

Good luck!

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Old 05-11-2016, 08:30 AM   #6
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Funny OTRA15, we had a 20 and now a 25.

I think the 25 setup is pretty clumsy for seating and sleeping six. They actually made a model called the 25 SS (Six Sleeper) a few years ago with a corner double bed in back, a convertible dinette on the side, and a convertible couch in front, nifty.

I think the 25 and 27 are a poor arrangement for a family of four because the side lounge sits sideways in front of the tv. The 26U is a vast improvement for small family use because the dinette seating wraps around the front of the Airstream, check this one as it may be closest to getting into a midsize Airstream with some degree of comfort for four; all of them are making-do for six.

For safety, don't pull the Airstream without a weight distribution/sway control hitch. It may seem fine until very suddenly a few sway inducing conditions happen at once and the trailer is swinging wildly taking you off the road. The hitch and proper hitch setup are fully one-third of a great bumper-pull towing combination.
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I think you will miss all the space. If you are comfortable with what you have then stick with it.

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Old 05-11-2016, 09:21 AM   #8
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25' sleeping for more than 2 is tight

Agree with Brian and others; we are on our 3rd 25' currently. It is a 2014 FC twin FB model. We have had 2 adults stay with us on 3 occasions for a couple nights each. The pull out bed is tight but doable for 2 adults. We have used the fold down table for 2-grandkids (3 yrs old) for couple nights last summer with my son and daughter in law on the pull out; worked ok for couple nights, but not sure I would want to go a week. We also for the most part, live "outdoors" most of the time when weather allows for meals, etc. For an AS with more than 2 adults, I would also consider the 30' bunk. I also agree with Doug on towing...you want a WD/SC hitch for sure.
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I think you will miss all the space. If you are comfortable with what you have then stick with it.

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A 40 foot fifth wheel with four slide outs is larger than many New York City apartments.

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Don't get me wrong.
I love Airstream trailers and that's all I will have, but...
You will find the lack of storage and lack of 4 slide-outs and lack of living space/walk around space claustrophobic.
It may be best to hang on to that 40' fifth wheel with 4 slides and lots of storage.
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The 25 footer is a great size Airstream. I have had two this size. However, going from 40 foot to 25 foot is quite a change. You will probably be upset at first. Also, sleeping six will be a problem -- unless you like being up close and personal. Also, I would greatly suggest that you use a sway bar on any length trailer that uses a bumper type hitch -- better to be safe than sorry.
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oh my goodness dude,,, that F250 won't even know it's there.

I dropped from a 40' bus to a 27 foot airstream. We highly considered the 25, but found the bed setup in the 27 just more to our liking. Part of me kinda wishes we had gotten the twin bed setup... but oh well.

Ya know, not gonna lie, it's tight. You do a lot of dancing around each other to get places. I find the bathroom to be aggravatingly small, but not unusable, and the shower is tiny.

I find pulling it and parking it MUCH easier. That big dp was a navigation nightmare.

You're not crazy though. I personally would think your fifth too large for me to want to deal with. We also pack very light, and always have... maybe cause we're just a little lazy, but we've had "enough" room to do anything we've wanted.

The snazzy interior is a plus! All systems function well. It's a good unit.
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We went from a 30' AS to a 38' Motorhome and then back to another 30' AS. As Brian and others said, I think you should look at the 30' bunk. The F250 will do fine, but I never tow without bars - after 40 years with Reese I am now using an Equalizer and like it a little better. We do miss the room and comfort the motorhome provided when stopped, just the two of us and tow large Labrador Retrievers.
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