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Old 07-17-2018, 07:50 AM   #1
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20FB - AC Hard Start Capacitor

Hello fellow Airstream peoples. We recently purchased a new 2018 FC 20FB and I am trying to figure out what type of AC we have installed in our unit. Looks like this was the only manual in our bag that was missing. Does anyone know if we have a single or double phase AC?

I had a hard start cap in our last trailer and it was one of the best modifications I made to the trailer and I would like to do the same with our AS. Has Anyone already installed a hard start cap and if so, which did you purchase?

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Easy Start( https://www.microair.net) is working for me. Great customer service and a discount if you use Airstream when you check out online.
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I agree with the Easy Start (mirco air). My A/C units were drawing almost 50 amps at start up. Now they are drawing 16-19 amps. Also, I think the Easy start provides more protection than a hard start capacitor.
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Use "Airstream" code at checkout for 50 bucks off.

I've put these on both my trailers...excellent upgrade to run off a 2000w generator (except for at high elevations when the generators suffer power output loss) , and also to run off a 15 or 20 amp outlet at home or when moochdocking in driveways.
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Use "Airstream" code at checkout for 50 bucks off.

I've put these on both my trailers...excellent upgrade to run off a 2000w generator (except for at high elevations when the generators suffer power output loss) , and also to run off a 15 or 20 amp outlet at home or when moochdocking in driveways.
I agree. Easystart is the thing to do. Folks at Micro-Air are very helpful. It is a well made device too. Really increases the places you can go and easily still run your AC.
I have even installed one on my 4-ton heat pump at my home. Grid power fails a lot, and we have a backup gen that struggled to start the heat pump. No struggle now. Easystart really works!
And remember to ask for Airstream discount.
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Hello fellow Airstream peoples. We recently purchased a new 2018 FC 20FB and I am trying to figure out what type of AC we have installed in our unit. Looks like this was the only manual in our bag that was missing. Does anyone know if we have a single or double phase AC?

I had a hard start cap in our last trailer and it was one of the best modifications I made to the trailer and I would like to do the same with our AS. Has Anyone already installed a hard start cap and if so, which did you purchase?

Thanks!
Jake welcome to the forums. FYI there is a 20-footers thread you may want to check out.


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Old 07-18-2018, 03:27 PM   #8
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Late model Dometic Penguins come with a HardStart from the factory. This is not the same as an EasyStart from MicroAir. As I said earlier, I would not have an A/C without EasyStart. Easier starting, no clunking, and longer motor life. It makes the line power like that of an inverter generator.
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You asked 2 questions and it seems like everyone has been talking about one of them. By "single or double phase" do you mean "is it a heat pump?"

I think the 16' Sport and the Basecamp are the only 2 models in the line that don't have a heatpump AC unit, so yours should have a heat pump. If that's what you're asking.
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Hard start cap vs. EasyStart
Thought I might clarify that, for an air conditioner or heat pump compressor, a "hard start cap" is an extra capacitor that provides extra starting current to help a compressor get started. They are a simple add-on kit often added by service techs to help solve a compressor starting problem. They help by drawing even more current in the starting winding. If the current is available, it works. Since the compressor is starting from a standstill and trying to get to full speed, it draws a high current for a few seconds. A hard start kit increases this current.

The EasyStart solves the problem a different way. It gradually spins up the compressor with variable speed control technology, resulting in a "soft start" that draws a much lower starting current. The lower starting current is a great benefit for us camping in campgrounds w marginal electric supply, with extra long shore power cords, or with small generators. It is quieter too, since there is no kick when the compressor starts.
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Hello fellow Airstream peoples. We recently purchased a new 2018 FC 20FB and I am trying to figure out what type of AC we have installed in our unit. Looks like this was the only manual in our bag that was missing. Does anyone know if we have a single or double phase AC?

I had a hard start cap in our last trailer and it was one of the best modifications I made to the trailer and I would like to do the same with our AS. Has Anyone already installed a hard start cap and if so, which did you purchase?

Thanks!
I have a 2018 20 FB. Call the dealer or factory, but I think it is a dometic.
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Easy Start( https://www.microair.net) is working for me. Great customer service and a discount if you use Airstream when you check out online.
I've got a 20' FC and I'm absolutely happy with the Easy Start - wouldn't own an RV without one. I installed it myself, and run the AC with a Honda EU2000 in ECO mode.

Enjoy the 20 foot AS!!!
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Reading this thread there's no need to suggest EasyStart. But really, get EasyStart.
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