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Old 12-13-2015, 10:32 PM   #71
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Another way to help secure the awning (belts and suspenders) is to use Velcro straps around the awning supports. One in front and one in back at eye level or a little lower will keep the awning from opening even if the wheels at the top are loose.

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Old 12-13-2015, 10:34 PM   #72
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Joanne: My husband and I retired 2 1/2 years ago, sold our house, cars, and possessions, bought a new truck, picked up our new AS at the dealer, and set out. We had never owned an RV or trailer before, and we had no experience. So we know how you feel!
Candace, somehow I missed your post. Yes, what you did is exactly what we are doing and with no experience. House, cars, and possessions sold (just sold the last car today). It's good to know you not only survived but are thriving! Thanks for the driving school link and all the good advice and encouragement.

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Old 12-14-2015, 06:28 AM   #73
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Another way to help secure the awning (belts and suspenders) is to use Velcro straps around the awning supports. One in front and one in back at eye level or a little lower will keep the awning from opening even if the wheels at the top are loose.

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This is a great idea. Have done this for years for peace of mind.
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Good to hear the dealer attempted repair of cabinets, etc. that's all that can be expected, an attempt to repair. Then the recommendation to go to Ohio makes sense, good luck you have the best,!
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:44 AM   #75
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......or drink the Kool-Aid

Sorry for your troubles

We love our Classic....but would never buy new again.

JC......acres and acres of denial.

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Old 12-14-2015, 08:00 AM   #76
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Bob, Amen to that! We bought gently used and after a couple of years on this forum, nothing could ever motivate me to buy one new. We will keep ours until it dies, we die, or decide to stop "camping"

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If I had spent $100k+ on a brand new trailer and it had all sorts of ridiculous QC issues, I would be very, VERY pissed. I guess I am not a devout Airstream fan and simply cannot take these things in stride. The sad thing is these issues have been reported in this forum for YEARS, yet the company does not seem to care.
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If I had spent $100k+ on a brand new trailer and it had all sorts of ridiculous QC issues, I would be very, VERY pissed. I guess I am not a devout Airstream fan and simply cannot take these things in stride. The sad thing is these issues have been reported in this forum for YEARS, yet the company does not seem to care.
And they never will until they start having trouble selling trailers.

I am curious about something. All of the complaints here (including mine) seem to be from those who ordered trailers to be built. That make me think the trailers destined for dealers lots are being put right prior to be offered for sale. I would be curious where that is happening.

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"And they never will until they start having trouble selling trailers.

I am curious about something. All of the complaints here (including mine) seem to be from those who ordered trailers to be built. That make me think the trailers destined for dealers lots are being put right prior to be offered for sale. I would be curious where that is happening.

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Not necessarily so.......we went to our state Airstream dealer to look at new 27' international signature's to see if it was worth the fiscal pain to go "new" and get into a floorplan that was more social than the one we have. What we found was crookedly installed blinds, a window in the bathroom door that was visibly canted to the left, and a myriad of other visible evidences of shoddy, sloppy workmanship. Lord only knows what was wrong with the trailer that couldn't be readily seen and wouldn't reveal itself until the trailer was on the road. We left the dealership happy to have our used trailer, knowing we had some improvements implement, but at least things were installed straight. Totally unexcusible in a trailer costing $70-80K. I blame Microsoft. They have conditioned the masses to pay for a product and then be happy when it is faulty in many areas and wait for the next release to "fix" the problem that was a part of the first release. ;>)
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"And they never will until they start having trouble selling trailers.

I am curious about something. All of the complaints here (including mine) seem to be from those who ordered trailers to be built. That make me think the trailers destined for dealers lots are being put right prior to be offered for sale. I would be curious where that is happening.

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Not necessarily so.......we went to our state Airstream dealer to look at new 27' international signature's to see if it was worth the fiscal pain to go "new" and get into a floorplan that was more social than the one we have. What we found was crookedly installed blinds, a window in the bathroom door that was visibly canted to the left, and a myriad of other visible evidences of shoddy, sloppy workmanship. Lord only knows what was wrong with the trailer that couldn't be readily seen and wouldn't reveal itself until the trailer was on the road. We left the dealership happy to have our used trailer, knowing we had some improvements implement, but at least things were installed straight. Totally unexcusible in a trailer costing $70-80K. I blame Microsoft. They have conditioned the masses to pay for a product and then be happy when it is faulty in many areas and wait for the next release to "fix" the problem that was a part of the first release. ;>)
It sounds like you've tried Windows 10. At least I was wary enough to install it on only one "experimental" laptop. I like messing with computers, so it has been a game. However at this point I would not trust it with any job or data I cared about. Mine is an upgrade? from Win 7, so perhaps a fresh Win 10 system works better.

In any case your report on the new trailer you saw is not encouraging. Airstream in the last few years recaptured the magic they had many years ago. It is too bad they don't seem to want to keep it.

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Old 12-14-2015, 08:51 PM   #81
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What we found was crookedly installed blinds, a window in the bathroom door that was visibly canted to the left, and a myriad of other visible evidences of shoddy, sloppy workmanship.
I'm the OP. Thankfully, besides the abrasions and scratches on the cabinets, our Classic shows no other obvious signs of shoddy or sloppy workmanship as far as how the pieces and parts were put together. On the whole, it's quite nice.

The exterior scratch probably happened post-factory. The oven has a bad part and the propane issue has proven to be a bad part that has been recalled.
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Good to hear the dealer attempted repair of cabinets, etc. that's all that can be expected, an attempt to repair. Then the recommendation to go to Ohio makes sense, good luck you have the best,!
Yes, the issues were not the fault of the dealer. I certainly never intended to give that impression. They fixed what they could, but recommended that the big stuff be done by Jackson Center, and I agreed. It's just hard to hear that when you're standing in a trailer you've owned for one day.

And then we had the accident, which meant we'd be going to Jackson Center anyway. Already, JC has been very responsive and now I'm really looking forward to our visit there.
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:01 PM   #83
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Recently we looked at a new Classic very closely and found no construction problems, nicely assembled. This weekend we looked over a new 30' closely and found one issue with clearance between the pantry and wall next to it, otherwise nicely assembled. We looked at a new 26U, again a nicely assembled Airstream.

We don't need a new one, ours remains in beautiful condition and trouble-free going on five years, but if we did I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. However, based on other reports here I would go over it with a fine-toothed comb before signing the papers.

Same as with a house, car, land, or any other big-ticket purchase.
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