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Old 07-18-2019, 06:34 AM   #15
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I had a similar problem with my 33 Classic within the first month. Mice got in through the opening where the wiring bundle goes through the floor up near the spare tire mount. The area was not sealed. Luckily I caught the mice the very next day and sealed the wiring bundle area with silicone sealer and steel wool. Went underneath on the belly pan area and sealed several large gaps with a combination of aluminum HVAC duct tape, silicone, and foam gap spray. There where many gaps or poor fit areas where the cold or small animals could get in. I havenít checked the area you mentioned but will soon. Good luck with the fix.
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Old 07-18-2019, 08:05 AM   #16
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I don't understand how you saw the ground.
Isn't there a belly pan?
I'll bet we all have multiple holes we've never looked for.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:32 AM   #17
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Thoughts on floor-hole plugging

OK, wow! Yet another reason its good they don't build airplanes.

As you address this issue, be sure to consider a couple of other points, such as

Try not to use a line-to-line rigid plate or other solution. As the trailer rolls down the road, it rocks, and if the plug solution is rigid, then the pipes will flex. Over hours and miles of travel, the pipes will be broken by the flexing.

An immediate solution is to pack the entire hole with copper wool. Like steel wool, but made of copper. Rodents and other vermin will not (so I'm told) chew through copper. Available at most hardware/plumbing supplies and used by my Orkin Exterminator to plug holes in my garage. Seems to be working.

Good luck and try not to let the crappy Airstream Quality Control ruin your fun.

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I removed the aluminum kickplate below the desk area while I was routing some Ethernet cable. I discovered two 2" round holes and could see through them right to the ground. Any mouse or critter could simply climb in and have full access to my trailer.

I sealed these holes but now wonder if there are more that I should fix. Anyone come across others?

Also, isn't there supposed to be some insulation in the floor? These holes show that part of the floor is just plywood and nothing else.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:57 AM   #18
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Omg

It is a good thing you did not post this on Facebook. Because the answer from them would have been how dare you complain about an Airstream just sell it and go away we don't want you in our club.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:32 AM   #19
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I had a similar problem with my 33 Classic within the first month. Mice got in through the opening where the wiring bundle goes through the floor up near the spare tire mount. The area was not sealed. Luckily I caught the mice the very next day and sealed the wiring bundle area with silicone sealer and steel wool. Went underneath on the belly pan area and sealed several large gaps with a combination of aluminum HVAC duct tape, silicone, and foam gap spray. There where many gaps or poor fit areas where the cold or small animals could get in. I havenít checked the area you mentioned but will soon. Good luck with the fix.
I use aluminum wool to keep mice out. Steel wool will rust.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:48 AM   #20
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The last straw, will never buy a new AS!

We were soooo close to taking the plunge to buy a new Airstream. And I even convinced two of my friends to buy theirs too. We wanted not only a great travel trailer, but a piece of American greatness. But after seeing this blatant disregard for the so called AS quality, we will not be buying a new Airstream. Thatís a loss of three travel traveler sales. But I bet they donít care. Weíre not even a blip on their ďrecord salesĒ reports. Theyíre just focussed on raking in the dough while the iron is hot.

So disappointed. And we thought that AS was the Last of the great American companies. I guess we will go with the Pleasureway brand. Better warranty too.

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I removed the aluminum kickplate below the desk area while I was routing some Ethernet cable. I discovered two 2" round holes and could see through them right to the ground. Any mouse or critter could simply climb in and have full access to my trailer.

I sealed these holes but now wonder if there are more that I should fix. Anyone come across others?

Also, isn't there supposed to be some insulation in the floor? These holes show that part of the floor is just plywood and nothing else.
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:58 AM   #21
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I had a similar problem with my 33 Classic within the first month. Mice got in through the opening where the wiring bundle goes through the floor up near the spare tire mount. The area was not sealed. Luckily I caught the mice the very next day and sealed the wiring bundle area with silicone sealer and steel wool. Went underneath on the belly pan area and sealed several large gaps with a combination of aluminum HVAC duct tape, silicone, and foam gap spray. There where many gaps or poor fit areas where the cold or small animals could get in. I havenít checked the area you mentioned but will soon. Good luck with the fix.
This is what I'm going to do. I'm now convinced the problem isn't the holes in the floor. I need to go over the entire underside of the trailer and seal up any openings.

Also I just wanted to say that I'm not complaining or upset with Airstream. I still really like my trailer and when I decided to buy it I knew that I'd have to deal with small issues like this. As long as I can fix them its all good. And this process along with other fixes I've done have helped me to learn the systems and location of various items in the trailer and be more comfortable with any repairs I may have to make when I'm on a trip.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:28 AM   #22
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This is by far the most shocking, appalling, horrific, horrifying, horrible, terrible, awful, dreadful, grievous, gross, ghastly, hideous, horrendous, frightful, atrocious, abominable, abhorrent, outrageous; monstrous, nightmarish, heinous, harrowing, dire, unspeakable, shameful; flagrant, glaring, blatant, scandalous, unforgivable, unpardonable, intolerable issue I have ever seen.

Hallelujah! Holy shxx! Where's the Tylenol?
OMG, Clark Griswold tell us how you really feel! Well played turk123
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:49 AM   #24
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That picture disturbs me a lot. How is anything like this permitted in a $150,000 trailer?
Our trailer's floor is full of unused holes, including one in the floor in front of the kitchen cabinets showing through the flooring. We requested a floor repair with new flooring during warranty, and Airstream's response was to send a wide piece of molding to replace the narrow piece.

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Airstream has no quality control. As soon as you remove any cover or access panel, you find that out VERY quickly.
Agree!

Maybe you will also find the live but unused 12VDC wires stuffed into some your floor's holes. When asked, Airstream support could not explain them. Surprise!

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Is there a belly pan? Belly pan should seal mice and air currents from the outside. Are the holes to allow some heat to flow around the pipes? I think the PEX pipe will be fine however you do the holes. My trailers have several holes through the floor into the belly pan area. Has not been a problem so far.
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Old 07-18-2019, 01:12 PM   #26
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I have a 2019 30' Classic, I have noticed the pipes, but now I am going to look closer at them the next time I am at my trailer.
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Old 07-18-2019, 03:26 PM   #27
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We were soooo close to taking the plunge to buy a new Airstream. And I even convinced two of my friends to buy theirs too. We wanted not only a great travel trailer, but a piece of American greatness. But after seeing this blatant disregard for the so called AS quality, we will not be buying a new Airstream. That’s a loss of three travel traveler sales. But I bet they don’t care. We’re not even a blip on their “record sales” reports. They’re just focussed on raking in the dough while the iron is hot.

So disappointed. And we thought that AS was the Last of the great American companies. I guess we will go with the Pleasureway brand. Better warranty too.
You should have seen the punch-list of items that were screwed up on my new 2016 Classic. Just appalling. The reason they can make such garbage is there is no competition.
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This is what I'm going to do. I'm now convinced the problem isn't the holes in the floor. I need to go over the entire underside of the trailer and seal up any openings.



Also I just wanted to say that I'm not complaining or upset with Airstream. I still really like my trailer and when I decided to buy it I knew that I'd have to deal with small issues like this. As long as I can fix them its all good. And this process along with other fixes I've done have helped me to learn the systems and location of various items in the trailer and be more comfortable with any repairs I may have to make when I'm on a trip.


If you are worried about mice really scrutinize you wheel wells. They appear sealed but are not. Use lots of sikaflex.
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