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Old 04-07-2018, 09:30 AM   #1
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2019 Jeep Scrambler as a tow vehicle

Hi, folks! Iím planning on purchasing the upcoming 2019 Jeep Scrambler as a tow vehicle. Advanced information pegs itís towing capacity at 6500 GVWR.

What are your thoughts about pulling an Airstream Flying Cloud 23FB?
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The old Wrangler series was never a good tow vehicle. Will be interesting to see how the new one does. With a 6500 lb tow rating, and a relatively low 1100 lb payload, you will be at the upper end of its capacity.
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Hi, folks! Iím planning on purchasing the upcoming 2019 Jeep Scrambler as a tow vehicle. Advanced information pegs itís towing capacity at 6500 GVWR.

What are your thoughts about pulling an Airstream Flying Cloud 23FB?
It all depends on what gadgetry the Jeep has, and how towing-friendly it is. The 23FB is right at the very top of the preliminary tow capacity. If you can tolerate it, the 23RB would be a better choice, for a variety of reasons.
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It all depends on what gadgetry the Jeep has, and how towing-friendly it is. The 23FB is right at the very top of the preliminary tow capacity. If you can tolerate it, the 23RB would be a better choice, for a variety of reasons.


I assume you mean 23CB, the 25RB is much heavier. That said, the 23CB seems to have the same specs other than a heavier hitch weight? How will that help?
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It all depends on what gadgetry the Jeep has, and how towing-friendly it is. The 23FB is right at the very top of the preliminary tow capacity. If you can tolerate it, the 23RB would be a better choice, for a variety of reasons.


So your feeling is the 500 lbs buffer between the 23FB GVWR and the Scramblerís tow rating isnít enough. I may have to look at the 20FB Flying Cloud, or 22FB Sport. Particularly, if I want to carry around a Yamaha EF3000iSEB genie too.

Thanks for your input!
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So your feeling is the 500 lbs buffer between the 23FB GVWR and the Scramblerís tow rating isnít enough. I may have to look at the 20FB Flying Cloud, or 22FB Sport. Particularly, if I want to carry around a Yamaha EF3000iSEB genie too.

Thanks for your input!
The consensus is to aim for 80% of tow capacity. That way, if you get a heavy generator, or your 300 pound mother in law comes along for a trip, you're not going to be over your limit.
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I assume you mean 23CB, the 25RB is much heavier. That said, the 23CB seems to have the same specs other than a heavier hitch weight? How will that help?
The heavier tongue weight will make for a more stable towing experience.
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The consensus is to aim for 80% of tow capacity. That way, if you get a heavy generator, or your 300 pound mother in law comes along for a trip, you're not going to be over your limit.


So, the 20FB is right around the sweet spot. Thank you!
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Itís a shame the Scrambler isnít specing out along the lines of the Grand Cherokee diesel. Seems like that would have handled the 23FB handily. 🤷🏻*♂️
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The heavier tongue weight will make for a more stable towing experience.


Thank you for the insight.
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The problem with an under powered tow vehicle are the hills. If you don't care about driving 35 mph up hills then go for it.
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Hi, folks! Iím planning on purchasing the upcoming 2019 Jeep Scrambler as a tow vehicle. Advanced information pegs itís towing capacity at 6500 GVWR.

What are your thoughts about pulling an Airstream Flying Cloud 23FB?
The ratings I saw online indicate 3,500 lbs. tow capacity on most vehicles, and 5,200 lbs. on select vehicles.

I chose a 20' FC with a GVWR of 5,000 lbs because my Toyota Tacoma was rated at 6,400 lbs., and I didn't want to push the limits of the tow vehicle. As it turns out, I wasn't impressed with its ability to pull/control the AS in hills or wind, so I recently traded it in for a much more capable tow vehicle.

Bearing that in mind, I wouldn't tow anything other than a Basecamp with the new Jeep. The tow power would be there, but the payload capacity WON'T be. I wouldn't tow my 20' FC with one, even though its GVWR of 5,000 lbs. would be within the 5,200 lb. rating.

Tow ratings, in my opinion, are greatly inflated numbers. It's wise to stay WELL under the rated limits - it's not fun towing with white knuckles!
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Our 2015 23D International Serenity has been extensively modified and scales 6,069 pounds fully loaded for camping with a tongue weight of 962 pounds (literature number was 720 pounds). Note that the factory literature tongue weights are notoriously low by several hundred pounds or more.

We tow with a 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI v6 turbo diesel at 55 mph max speed and see 16.5 mpg. The ML has more torque than the V8 gas that was available that year and makes the difference in being able to maintain speed in the mountains and have effective engine braking on descent.

I would take a test drive of the Jeep to some nearby truck scales and find out the actual axle loads with yourself, full gasoline tank and favorite passenger. One puts one axle on one scale segment and the other axle on a different scale segment, That will establish how much total payload is left for the Jeep out of which the tongue weight must be deducted. Then you can see if anything else can be carried inside the Jeep.
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Heavy duty tow vehicle or not I want one. Been waiting for these to return for years. ETA to dealerships is April 2019.
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