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Old 04-25-2018, 08:46 PM   #15
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Thanks for the responses. Confirmation of the little voice in the back of my head, I think. Will try raising the ball, just for grins, tho.

For posterity, here are the weights, now that I am home and near the spreadsheet. Incomplete comparisons are due to having to use the Muni scale at the landfill on a Saturday. The alternative near-ish scale is at a gravel pit, and the approach and departure ends are wonky to the point it is impossible to pull off of or onto the scale in a level attitude.

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Full Fuel plus Driver, tools, etc. 4 threads 7 threads (max)
Front 3280 2980 3180
Rear 2580 3780 3460
Total 5840 6760 6640

Trailer Only, hitched 5640 (scale wouldn't allow unhitching)
GCVW 12380
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Old 04-25-2018, 08:47 PM   #16
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Old 04-26-2018, 01:45 PM   #17
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I have an Andersen hitch. It is advertised to be a WD hitch. I find it's useless as a WD hitch. When I had a 3/4 ton truck I didn't need WD so the hitch worked well as an anti-sway hitch. With my 1/2 ton I need WD. Goodbye Anderson, hello Equal-i-zer.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:23 PM   #18
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How critical is "angle of attack?" VERY

TV & Trailer need to be as level as possible.
2" Tongue low is probably 4" butt high, with the front trailer axle loaded more than than the rear, unloading the TV steering axle...which may be contributing to your 'not quite right' towing experience.

As noted..your stated un-hitched tongue weight seems a bit low.

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How critical is "angle of attack?" VERY

TV & Trailer need to be as level as possible.
2" Tongue low is probably 4" butt high, with the front trailer axle loaded more than than the rear, unloading the TV steering axle...which may be contributing to your 'not quite right' towing experience.

As noted..your stated un-hitched tongue weight seems a bit low.

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Wrong hitch. To start.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:36 PM   #20
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How critical is "angle of attack?"

With WD applied, dialed in, loaded for camping my 30’ is 1/2”-3/4” of level, with a very slight nose down approach. I use an equalizer hitch.

Your trailer should be as close to level as possible (as measured from the frame rail to the ground, front and rear, on a level concrete pad) when fully rigged up with the correct amount of WD applied to the receiver / TV.
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Put a carpenters level across doorframe. (This location is the starting point for construction measurements). Off-bubble is one thing, well outside quite another.
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Old 04-29-2018, 01:35 AM   #22
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Thanks again. Home flooring project is getting in the way of important work on the AS. More to report later as the floor project concludes. This forum is great!
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:11 PM   #23
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OK. As Paul Harvey would say... something about the rest of the story. After goofing around with hitches, etc. the payload problem just would not go away, and was bound to get worse as we added "stuff," including the bride's rock collection. New TV is an F350 with over 3,300lb useful load. After several adjustments and re-adjustments, AS is riding within a 1/4 inch level, slightly nose down. TV squats nicely under load, and WD hitch shoves some back forward. Recent trip with a wide variety of terrain was excellent. Now I can enjoy the trip instead of wondering. Thanks for all the prior advice.
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Put it on the scale. Three passes.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:50 PM   #25
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working on that; the trick around here is no CAT scale so I am timing my visits to the landfill such that traffic is light and I can goof around a bit without causing a traffic jam.

Truck with full fuel and driver only:

Front 4360
Rear 4000
Total 8360

Hitched, with WD engaged
Front 4540
Rear 5060
Total 9600
GCVW 15320

By calculation, since I can't unhitch the trailer, the TT axles should be carrying 5720, and the TT is adding 6960 to the scale, overall.
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Sounds good. A lot more weight on the truck than the 690 lbs mentioned in some earlier posts. I think you have everything you need. You do not really need the tongue weight since you know how much weight you are adding to the truck. Bottom line now is does it drive well? And is this still with the Anderson or did you upgrade hitches with the truck? I am just curious about that.
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Am I rong? 😳
I see too much weight on the steering axle with WD set.
What are your GAWR's frt & rear?

100% or whatever % that OEM recommends.
Don't ever recall seeing 100#+recommended 🙃

We are 200# under 100%.

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Upgraded to a Propride in a last ditch effort to avoid a TV upgrade. Oh well. Still works well on the new TV. No wiggles, even with oncoming double semi on a narrow AK highway at speed. Hitch/unhitch is pretty slick; quiet.

The axle capacities are more than adequate - still lots of capacity left on the F350. I know what you mean about the front increase, but it is what it is, and I am not even putting anywhere near the WD I had on the F150.
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