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Old 01-29-2016, 12:30 PM   #71
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We like that they continue to think up new cool limited editions - it's fun!
I couldn't agree more - especially with the addition of some kitchen/bath amenities to complete the theme.

Waiting for an aviation-themed Airstream.
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:58 PM   #72
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Wow, well under $100K really? I know the "standard" RV industry works off a silly 20-35% below MSRP scheme, but I didn't know Airstream fell into the same range.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
With Spring just around the corner, any discount for a 2016 model will be hard to come by IMO. The RV shows are starting, and the dealers will wait a few months to see how buyer demand goes. You could still start around 100k, and see what the reaction is. Next Fall such an offer would be expected as the 2017 model year kicks in, but if you really want a new unit now, the dealer will get closer to list price in my opinion, especially if they smell any buyer eagerness!

Good luck and please let us know if you make an offer.

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Old 01-29-2016, 07:26 PM   #73
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Waiting for an aviation-themed Airstream.

We want the Amelia Earhart edition!
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:24 PM   #74
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They made one already. Sadly it's missing somewhere.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:25 PM   #76
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I had a chance to get into a Pendeton today. The upholstery and cabinets are really nice. Somewhat disappointing in the use of plastic on the exterior.

Just FYI, you can forget about a large discount, or maybe any discount. One recently sold for $10k OVER list!
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Wow, they couldn't even be bothered to align the laminate on those cabinets? Makes for a very careless appearance.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:54 PM   #78
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Wow, they couldn't even be bothered to align the laminate on those cabinets? Makes for a very careless appearance.
A most disturbing element of the interior. Surely the designer intended this laminate wood grain pattern be in alignment, I'm guessing a failure on the production line.

I want to see one, see what Airstream is up to. The Tucson dealer will get their allotment of two next month, one is already sold.
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LOVE this Airstream!!! I would buy one in a heartbeat..........but, $120,000 is just too much for me. I guess I should have picked a different profession. Maybe a politician?
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Are we surprised at the level of QC in the Pendleton? It comes down the same production lines as all the other models. The same new 200 workers are working on this model, too. The name of the game is attention to detail.

Someone paying $10K over list for the typically problematic Airstream is nuts in my opinion. A cabinet built like that should never have been installed let alone ship from the factory.
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Are we surprised at the level of QC in the Pendleton? It comes down the same production lines as all the other models. The same new 200 workers are working on this model, too. The name of the game is attention to detail.

Someone paying $10K over list for the typically problematic Airstream is nuts in my opinion. A cabinet built like that should never have been installed let alone ship from the factory.

So, what do you think about Airstream quality?!!

Oh wait,let me check all your posts........
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A most disturbing element of the interior. Surely the designer intended this laminate wood grain pattern be in alignment, I'm guessing a failure on the production line.



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Doug - if you check out their PDF brochure, the laminate isn't aligned in those interior pics either. Entirely possible the "randomness" is an intentional design element - one that will/won't resonate with folks for many reasons - but based on the sales brochure, I don't think you can attribute this to a failure on the line.
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Our first Airstream was a 2013 25FB International Serenity that came down the line in June of 2012 when production was under 25 units per week. We had no build issues with that trailer. Local dealer created issues were beyond belief. We also discovered the true nature of the cross frame front bed where I hit man head on the roof locker every time I setup in the bed. We were also less than tickled with the dinette arrangement, comfort and the stiff neck I got having my head turned trying to watch the television.

We decided to change to a different floor plan and in May of 2013 initially ordered a 2014 27FB Classic to be built the following January. Upon reflection, we decided that the mechanically identical dinette area was still an issue and switched the order to a 2014 31' Classic model 30 for the just the $3,012 difference in the list price.

If I had not been at the factory the entire Classic build time, lack of dealer/salesman follow through on the approved change order (which included an aluminum backslash in the bathroom and the flooring from the International Serenity rather than the wood look vinyl) would have had them eat that unit to build one to the specifications I was charged for and approved by the VP of Production. So the existing interior walls and cabinets had to be removed to replace the flooring with the correct version. Since the employees were not very happy to have to redo their work because of a failure to have the change order implemented in the shop floor work order, the job was poorly done. Other QC issues included crossed duct work under the kitchen cabinet which I caught on film as the cabinet came in and lots of fitment issues to numerous to list again. The build goal in January 2014 was just over 40 units per week.

People were tripping all over each other in the rush to get things done with some chap with a stop watch timing everything.

When the 2015 23D International Serenity came down the line in the last week of September 2014, they were trying to crank out 51+ units per week.

The PDI was a joke in terms of the errors I found in the Classic. The cabinetry issues were too signifiant to trust the local dealer to repair properly. Walls and doors were damaged in shipment.

The 23D PDI had to be done at the lunch room table as no one saw the wad of plastic that was not fully removed from the curb side rear piece of interior aluminum skin beside the bed. At the factory someone put the mattress against this wad and the dealership put the bed spread on the bed covering up the plastic. To bad no one noticed the "AIRSTREAM" letters were NOT installed on the rear of the trailer or the large crack in the wall beside the shower that was not assembled properly. The list goes on. The dealer started a warranty claim to fix a couple of the simple issues that were their responsibility to fix during the PDI, not as a warranty claim.

Many folks on here say there is very poor quality in the RV industry. A large part of that non-caring attitude is the fact that the “lemon laws” for vehicles do not apply to anything made in the RV industry. Thus there is no negative incentive to do the job correctly the first time.

Airstream marketing claims they are a premium product. That is compared to what standard? The rest of the RV industry? It is a very very low bar. They could only legitimately make that claim if zero defects was the norm on every unit coming off of the line, not just on maybe one or two units per month.

We have spent a lot of time and money to correct the manufacturing defects, replace breaking plastic parts with brass ones and basically replacing all the electric outlets for safety reasons in both the 2014 Classic and the 2015 23D. We installed Maxim skylights because Airstream was unwilling to work a deal for top quality skylights without the plastic frame that the workers crack by over tightening the attachment screws. We have already had to replace the factory flooring in both units.

Our modifications list to correct or improve our units are several pages long. We have them nearly to the condition they should have been in when I took delivery.
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Doug - if you check out their PDF brochure, the laminate isn't aligned in those interior pics either. Entirely possible the "randomness" is an intentional design element - one that will/won't resonate with folks for many reasons - but based on the sales brochure, I don't think you can attribute this to a failure on the line.
It is unlikely the "randomness" of the laminate wood grain pattern is intentional. No designer or cabinet maker worth their salt would do this as a good or clever thing; wood grain in this bold a pattern must be aligned or the eye is drawn to the error rather than seeing the whole it as a pleasant composition.

My first impression when seeing the brochure was the drawers were simply placed in the wrong position, could be moved around to straighten things up. But no, someone at Airstream is not paying any attention to it.

Whether this is a production decision to expedite the build, or simply oversight during cabinet assembly, it's not a good way to assemble cabinets. In our Flying Cloud the wood pattern is so neutral you don't notice the grain alignment at all; in the Pendleton it is jolting.
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