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Old 03-21-2011, 08:27 PM   #15
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no, its not low but, yea, somewhere around there. Butthat is only because once again, the renewal notice went out late in the newsletter and was largely ignored. As of this point I have sent out an email blast to the folks who we had on record as not renewing. That message was viewed by probably a larger population (44% opening) and I am in the process of sending out the dreaded "Your Membership has Expired" postcard. I ran out halfway through addressing them so I had to order more. As soon as I get them, those will go out as well. We get the highest response after the post cards go out.
But all in all, based on my experience with the membership numbers, where we are now is about where we have been for the last few years - low numbers but still coming in.
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:10 AM   #16
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I was under the impression that VAC numbers were 750+, no?
Seems to me VAC membership was only around eight or nine hundred back when we joined several years ago. Back then total WBCCI membership was around 9,000, so if VAC membership numbers have declined proportionally it would be around five or six hundred today.

Actually I suspect that VAC members are over-represented in those who have left WBCCI, so VAC membership might be less than that.

Maybe Tim can tell us.
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:28 AM   #17
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I'm not a member currently. Where do I find more information? Do you need to be a WBCCI member in order to join?
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:56 AM   #18
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If you are not a WBCCI member, you can subscribe to the newsletter, if you are a WBCCI member with trailer or motorhome 25 years or older you can become a full, voting member, if your trailer or motorhome is under 25 years old, you can become a non voting member. Clear???

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Old 03-22-2011, 11:07 AM   #19
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If you are not a WBCCI member, you can subscribe to the newsletter, if you are a WBCCI member with trailer or motorhome 25 years or older you can become a full, voting member, if your trailer or motorhome is under 25 years old, you can become a non voting member. Clear???

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Semi-clear...how many newsletters? Any way that I could preview an old newsletter so that I can see what I'd be paying for?
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:39 AM   #20
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It is my understanding that a non WBCCI member receives four newsletters. The current newsletter is here: Spring, 2008 | Vintage Airstream Club

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Semi-clear...how many newsletters? Any way that I could preview an old newsletter so that I can see what I'd be paying for?
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Spring 2008? All VAC membershipand subscriptions pay the same $20.00 each member but there are three distinct levels of benefits, depending upon what your own and what prior dues you have paid, correct?
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This one better: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f286...lub-73947.html

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Old 03-22-2011, 09:20 PM   #24
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The current newsletter is available to members in good standing only. However, we have put a free newsletter online for anybody to see. You can see the free issue HERE. That is the Spring, 2008 issue. If you want to see the current issue, you have to join. And of course, to be a full member of the VAC, you have to be a member of WBCCI in good standing.
We do have a non-WBCCI subscriber status and with that you can also see the past issues of the VA as well.
SilverHoot - before you write off the VAC take a look at the free issue and poke around the site. If you join online, you will receive immediate access to all of the newsletters for the last few years, forums access and more. If not, please enjoy the free issue with our compliments.

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Old 03-22-2011, 10:06 PM   #25
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Spring 2008? All VAC membershipand subscriptions pay the same $20.00 each member but there are three distinct levels of benefits, depending upon what your own and what prior dues you have paid, correct?
I wouldn't say there are different levels of benefits, but you can say there are three levels of "belonging" (in my words, not the official club terms):

1. "Subscriber" - Vintage Airstream enthusiast who may or may not own a vintage Airstream, or even any Airstream. Not a WBCCI member. Receives the VAC Newsletter, but cannot vote or hold office. May be able to attend "Buddy Rallys" if participating in an Air5stream. Not a VAC member.

2. "Affiliate Member" - WBCCI member who does not own a vintage Airstream, but pays VAC dues. Can hold some appointed VAC offices, but not elected offices. Cannot vote on VAC elections and issues. Receives the VAC Newsletter and can attend all VAC events and participate in almost all VAC activities.

3. "Regular Member" - WBCCI member who owns a vintage Airstream and pays VAC dues. Can hold any office and vote on all VAC elections and issues. Receives the VAC Newsletter and can attend all VAC events and participate in all VAC activities.

In reality, the "Affiliate" and "Regular" members are almost the same. You get the Newsletter and can attend all events. The differences are minor. An Affiliate cannot participate in the Vintage Airstream Concours judging (because they don't own a Vintage Airstream - duh!) and cannot vote or hold certain offices (quite frankly, why would anyone want to if they did not own a Vintage Airstream?). Beyond that, they are equal.

I have been a VAC member as long as I have been in WBCCI. During those times that I did not own a qualifying vintage Airstream, I was still an affiliate and I was not treated any differently. It really did not bother me that I could not vote in VAC elections (like WBCCI there aren't many "contested" elections, so you are not missing much), and I do not remember any voting issues at all, so I missed nothing there. There are no "second class" VAC memberships. It's just that certain offices are best served by those with first hand knowledge of and demonstrated dedication to vintage Airstreams and the activities surrounding them. Nothing more.
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:07 PM   #26
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The VAC like WBCCI has been undergoing a membership decline since I have been involved with membership. I do get a large number of people saying that they would join if it did not require WBCCI membership. However, one can always become a VAC "Subscriber" at anytime without being a WBCCI member. BUT, in all fairness, we always recommend someone become a full member by joining WBCCI.
Leo, is there a specific point you are getting to here? I have records going back for years if you are looking for specific data. But it would help to know exactly what you are after.

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Old 03-23-2011, 07:24 AM   #27
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I still have a copy of a may 2003 excel spreadsheet showing 1148 members.
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:59 AM   #28
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In 2003 Vintage was only charging $10 due for full membership. I can not remember which year we changed the dues to $20.
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