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Old 10-02-2015, 12:42 AM   #15
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Eddie Bauer 27' / built-in-generator

Absolutely agree with Bob. We had solar on our old airstream and now have 200W solar and Li-ion batteries in our new one. No need for a generator at all. If going through all this trouble and the expense, I'd go for Li and solar.


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Old 10-02-2015, 11:45 AM   #16
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Thank you for all the tips. I will not go forward with original idea of having built-in generator. I will also buy solar-panel system as well.

Does any one know / use Honda EU3000iS with A/C (Eddier Bauer 27', 15000 BTU)? Is it powerful enough to run A/C?
Honda EU3000iS Model Info | Super Quiet 3000 Watt Inverter Generator | Honda Generators

Does any one know what is the size of the battery box / whether same Honda EU3000iS can fit over the battery box? Honda is 25.9" x 17.6" x 22.0".
The EU3000iS is more than capable of running the AC. So is a 2400 watt generator if you want to consider a smaller generator. I will measure the area above my battery box on my 27 foot EB later today when I get back to the campsite and give you the dimensions.
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:36 PM   #17
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I'm afraid the EU3000 will not fit over the battery box. The clearance at the bottom (just above the battery box) is 15 inches, 38 cm (exactly) and it quickly narrows to 12 inches, 31 cm (about 12 inches up from the box.) I have seen pictures of the EU2000 in this space.

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Old 10-03-2015, 02:06 AM   #18
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Thanks for the dimension. I found out that Powerhouse PH2700PRi generator that might very barely fit in there. It is only 80 lbs, has electric start and is 2600/2700W, so it should run A/C (15000 BTU).

But it will be a very tight fit, if it even fits. I need to test it somewhere. Generator's dimensions are 17"H x 13"W x 22.8"D

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Thanks for the dimension. I found out that Powerhouse PH2700PRi generator that might very barely fit in there. It is only 80 lbs, has electric start and is 2600/2700W, so it should run A/C (15000 BTU).

But it will be a very tight fit, if it even fits. I need to test it somewhere. Generator's dimensions are 17"H x 13"W x 22.8"D

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The only purpose for a generator of that capacity is to run the air conditioner. I m surprised that you would need that much AC in Finland.
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The only purpose for a generator of that capacity is to run the air conditioner. I m surprised that you would need that much AC in Finland.
I actually plan to tour the Southern States with that Airstream. Not planning to bring it to Finland.
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I actually plan to tour the Southern States with that Airstream. Not planning to bring it to Finland.
That makes more sense.

Know that 99.99% of the people with Airstreams carry their generators in the tow vehicle or inside the trailer. Very few people mount the generator on the tongue due to tongue weight issues.
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Built in Generator

I had drawn up a design to do this on a Panamerica. But, the necessary mounting, air ducting, double safety sealing to avoid CO poisoning, this is a huge project, probably not justified. Airstreams do not like strange weight balance issues and this may also be a consideration. Most of these generators are seriously affected by any air restriction, thus a space around the generator is also required.

Per the Honda EU3000i Handi owner's manual:
• Never operate a generator inside a house, garage, basement, crawl space, or any enclosed or partially enclosed space.

• The exhaust system gets hot enough to ignite some materials.
– Keep the generator at least 3 feet (1 meter) away from buildings
and other equipment during operation.
– Do not enclose the generator in any structure.
– Keep flammable materials away from the generator.

This pretty much answers the question of using one of these portable generators.

Now, why not carry it in the TV? I have mine in the bed of my truck, when dry camping I let it slide down a ramp, lock it to the trailer. When ready to depart i use a winch to bring it back up not the bed. It is a 4000 watt from Northern Tool, about $500 and has electric start.

The final issue is the vibration and noise. No mayor how this is done, the potential for vibrations and noise are insurmountable.
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Caution is advised when using a non-inverter type generator for sensitive electronics which may be on board your AS ... the EU3000is is the "cleanest" electricity and quietest (albeit heavier than the 3000 Handi) of the bunch of portables which have been suggested...reflected in the relative pricing... $~2k vs $500.
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Cool Final decision about the generator

After going through all the options and also buying the Eddie Bauer, this is what I have learned about the generator and electricity in general.

I ended buying Energizer 2800W portable inverter generator, which can run 15000 BTU A/C unit, but it needs few minutes to warm it up, otherwise it gets overloaded and will shutdown. Honda or especially Yamaha 3000iseb would have been better, but they are very heavy. Ideally generator should have been 3000W+ to have smoother A/C operation.

If I would buy generator now, I would try/go with Boliy Pro3600SIE, which have optional propane kit.

eZV2800 - 2600W Gas Powered Inverter Generator | Energizer Generators
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My list of recommendations:

1. Do not even consider having built-in generator. To have it done properly, it would cost a fortune and most likely you would still end up hating the noise. It is absolutely the best to buy portable generator that you can place as far away from the Airstream as possible.

2. Do buy solar panels, I ended up buying Zampsolar's 240W kit. It works like a dream. Generator is only needed for A/C - nothing else.

3. Do consider replacing current Interstate SRM-24 batteries to more powerful ones. For example SRM-29 should provide almost double the capacity. With heavier use, batteries will run out during the evening.

4. I will have my solar panel connected to the battery, even when ”In Storage” is switched on. This is great, if Airstream is stored outside. Even when lights are turned off, Airstream seem to be consuming batteries.

5. I will have separate main switch installed inside of the battery case if battery needs to be fully disconnected (Airstream stored inside).

6. I will replace 1000W inverter with 1500W or 2000W model. This will allow me to operate microwave/coffee maker without generator. I will also have separate inverter outlet/switch installed inside of the microwave cabin.

I hope somebody else finds this list helpful.
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"I ended buying Energizer 2800W portable inverter generator, which can run 15000 BTU A/C unit, but it needs few minutes to warm it up, otherwise it gets overloaded and will shutdown."

-> Energizer died - it was probably being overloaded with 15000 BTU A/C. Do not buy it for this use. Boliy now ordered.
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