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Old 08-24-2013, 12:33 AM   #1
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The Eddie Bauer isn't really made for fulltiming - and I've put my possessions in mine for about the third time. Finally realized I should have done a storage plan FIRST - including measuring all of the cabinets and open nooks.

The kitchen really started getting my goat, because the cupboard space is so small... and there's not one really good big shelf to put pots in. I also didn't like the silverware drawer. It's inside the cabinet doors, so to get a spoon to stir coffee I have to open the door to access the drawer. Then it hit me. I dumped all of my silverware in a big pencil cup and put it on the counter. I pulled out two of the three drawers and voila - space for pots and pans. I'll keep the top drawer for sharp knives, etc. which I don't want out in plain sight and don't use for every meal. I did find some great small rectangular clear storage containers for the pantry & overhead cabinet.

If I were designing the EB, I'd put in a 2 burner SMEV hob (burner unit) so there would be a bit more counter space and prep area. I've always liked the big round sink, but it would be even better with an offset drain. The center drain takes up a lot of usable storage space. It's not impossible to find sinks where the drain hole is offset into a back edge or corner - Wish Airstream had done that. I'm considering changing out the steel cover for the stove with a wooden cutting board type. Progress is being made.

I did put all my shoe storage under the dinette bench right by the door - handy, and keeps sand/grass from being tracked in.

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Old 08-24-2013, 01:50 AM   #2
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The Eddie Bauer isn't really made for fulltiming - and I've put my possessions in mine for about the third time. Finally realized I should have done a storage plan FIRST - including measuring all of the cabinets and open nooks.

The kitchen really started getting my goat, because the cupboard space is so small... and there's not one really good big shelf to put pots in. I also didn't like the silverware drawer. It's inside the cabinet doors, so to get a spoon to stir coffee I have to open the door to access the drawer. Then it hit me. I dumped all of my silverware in a big pencil cup and put it on the counter. I pulled out two of the three drawers and voila - space for pots and pans. I'll keep the top drawer for sharp knives, etc. which I don't want out in plain sight and don't use for every meal. I did find some great small rectangular clear storage containers for the pantry & overhead cabinet.

If I were designing the EB, I'd put in a 2 burner SMEV hob (burner unit) so there would be a bit more counter space and prep area. I've always liked the big round sink, but it would be even better with an offset drain. The center drain takes up a lot of usable storage space. It's not impossible to find sinks where the drain hole is offset into a back edge or corner - Wish Airstream had done that. I'm considering changing out the steel cover for the stove with a wooden cutting board type. Progress is being made.

I did put all my shoe storage under the dinette bench right by the door - handy, and keeps sand/grass from being tracked in.

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Hi, Interesting report on your new trailer. My trailer doesn't have much room for pots and pans either, so we only have a few. They fit under our kitchen sink. My silverware drawer is also inside of a cabinet door, but we are OK with that. We hardly ever use two burners at once and mostly only use one. Sometimes the third burner is just a place to put our toaster, but it usually sits/fits in between the stove top and the double sink. Not sure what you mean about the center drain taking up storage space. I don't have the metal stove top cover. I have a wooden one that stores between my Gaucho and refrigerator when not in use.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:32 AM   #3
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i use a mug for my utensils and an old tall plastic jar for storage.

on most sinks i've seen, the sink drain drops about 8" before it hits a 45* elbow. i've wondered if the 45* elbow couldn't go right under the sink and the drop go closer to the wall. any plumbers out there?
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:10 AM   #4
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Hi, Interesting report on your new trailer. My trailer doesn't have much room for pots and pans either, so we only have a few. They fit under our kitchen sink. My silverware drawer is also inside of a cabinet door, but we are OK with that. We hardly ever use two burners at once and mostly only use one.
Ditto.

We put pot lids and the Corelle in vertical lid organizers, from WalMart, I believe, which take up less precious cabinet space and more unused vertical space.

We found years ago at an RV dealership somewhere a sturdy plastic knife holder that mounts on the inside of the cabinet door. Holds a half dozen of various sizes very securely and uses otherwise empty space.

An AS owner from Canada once showed us an over-door hanging canvas shoe organizer that she used inside a cabinet door for pantry storage of cans, bottles, etc. Again using empty vertical space.

Lots of ideas out there. It is a challenge.


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Old 08-24-2013, 06:13 AM   #5
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I'm definately not a plumber, but I did notice that my double sink has the elbows right under the drain and a trap near the wall. Sal
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:18 AM   #6
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We find everthing in our 25 usable for our half-time use but the seating. The dinette doesn't cut it long-term. Knowing this from our previous Airstream, we priced a conversion to 30' style recliners at Jackson Center, about $4200 including recliners.

We also considered the EB because it is a simple matter of removing the dinette equipment and setting the recliners in. About $10,000 more expensive trailer plus $1500 recliners. The EB has some great other features though that probably make the overall value pretty decent.

Have you considered recliners as a comfort upgrade?

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Old 09-03-2013, 12:40 AM   #7
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I have the EB 27FB version- and the extra space from the 25' does help. I like the idea of recliners. However I also like use our table. As we are starting our fulltime adventure this week, were would we put a work space? Where to eat breakfast? What happens if you need to open the back door and store something? do they make recliners that fold up like stadium seats and are comfortable enough to turn into a secondary bed?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:24 AM   #8
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Yesterday I removed the bench seat by the entrance door and the table. Plenty of space so I ordered one Villa Lift recliner (same as used in new 30' Airstreams). I like this recliner because it has the fold up footrest, unlike our Ekornes recliners at home with separate ottomans, and seems comfortable. The separate ottomans take up too much floor space, I think.

I made a smaller 24" x 32" table as an experiment to replace the huge Airstream table. Will install with stock Airstream hardware for now, and perhaps make something nicer if it works out.

In a couple months we will be leaving for our annual winter trip south, so we'll see how this works. I am convinced the dinette seating is Airstreams worst long-term comfort offering. She is good for now as she likes to sit at the table and do crafts and such, and stretch out on the long bench. I can't find a comfortable way to use my dinette seat, so it's gone. (But I stored the pieces, just in case).

I think in the long run, we'll probably convert both sides to recliners, narrow table between, making it a "trailer-for-two" which is exactly what we need 99% of the time.

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:48 AM   #9
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Dkottum I enjoyed your posting and subscribed so I can make sure to read how you enjoyed your new chair/seating arrangement. This is a option we may consider as we progress w/our repairs.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:06 PM   #10
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Not a modification - just a note. I'm getting delusions of adequacy about hitching the Hensley. Only took me 7 tries to get it backed up perfectly. I realized I'm overthinking it too. DON'T mess with the tensioners they were fine when you unhitched, they'll probably be right when you rehitch.

Have to just get close and shove it in. (Reminds me of a man I used to know).
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.......Have to just get close and shove it in. (Reminds me of a man I used to know).
I just snorted water out my nose and woke up my wife! Thank you, I needed a laugh....
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The Eddie Bauer isn't really made for fulltiming -

If I were designing the EB, I'd put in a 2 burner SMEV hob (burner unit) so there would be a bit more counter space and prep area. I've always liked the big round sink, but it would be even better with an offset drain. The center drain takes up a lot of usable storage space. It's not impossible to find sinks where the drain hole is offset into a back edge or corner - Wish Airstream had done that. I'm considering changing out the steel cover for the stove with a wooden cutting board type. Progress is being made.

I did put all my shoe storage under the dinette bench right by the door - handy, and keeps sand/grass from being tracked in.

Paula
WE just mount a large poly cutting board over ours ... and rely more on the convection / micro.
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Paula, there is now a flat double hinged tempered glass top for newer stoves, currently I have only seen it on SOBs. I'll snap a photo next time I am in atrailer that has one.
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Paula, there is now a flat double hinged tempered glass top for newer stoves, currently I have only seen it on SOBs. I'll snap a photo next time I am in a trailer that has one.
Here is a photo of one, not the best, but it shows the flat glass folding cover:
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