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Old 01-07-2014, 03:36 PM   #15
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Isn't there an interior access door to the storage compartment under the bed that could be opened/removed to help or stop the under-mattress condensation.
For me, there are 3 drawers, which would become ankle biters in the night.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:02 PM   #16
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This thread reminds me of the thoughts expressed last year and the solution proposed was getting some garage door insulation which is about 1/4" thick plastic air bubble stuff with aluminum foil on both sides and building a double layer on top of the plywood board in the 25FB that supported the queen mattress to preclude the cold air generating moisture in the space between the mattress and the plywood and then creating mildew.

I used the aluminum tape I purchased to fasten the afore mentioned roll goods to the plywood to also seal the gap between the plywood and the aluminum inside panel and stopping the draft coming up out of the storage area and hitting the top of my head.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:04 PM   #17
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Yup, it's all been discussed before....but what else do I have to do when it's below zero...and you sitting there waiting for the Mothership to reopen?
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:22 PM   #18
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I assume we're talking about this bubble wrap and this tape. So, where's that old thread?

Say, did anybody try fastening that stuff to the underside of the plywood (inside the storage compartment)? Flopping onto the bed and other activities might risk damage to the bubbles. I'm hoping someone has thoroughly tested that to find out.
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:06 PM   #19
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Seriously, I would love to know more about this reflectix bubble wrap solution. If you're using it between the mattress and the boards, do you have any trouble with bubbles popping, or are they proving to be nice and sturdy under pressure? I'd like to prevent the condensation-under-the-mattress problem, but don't want to do this particular hack unless it's going to be reliable. Thanks!
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I like the idea of a thicker board under the queen mattress. However there is still an opening between the storage compartment and under the bed. Sealing that area off would be a good first start.
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What I used was actually " garage door insulation I acquired at CostCo and then found the aluminum tape at Home Depot. We have an 8" Rocky Mountain foam mattress and never heard or have seen issues with the insulation. I put a double layer on going 90 degrees different on the second layer.

However the day of gymnastics happening are long past.
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With the digits in the low 20's, we have been using the furnace and Dyson Heat fan a lot. My search tonight is "why is the bedroom floor so cold"? I noticed it up towards the very front- by the night stands. I think tomorrow I will look at insulating the space between the storage and under the bed. I don't know why Airstream made that a pass thru compartment under the master bed on the 27FB model.

Any recommendations on how to properly insulate that storage compartment? I am assuming that is the reason the floor is so cold up front :-)
The main problem is that there is a spare tire well below the front floor section & no insulation, or even an enclosed airspace. So you have 5/8 of an inch of wood to go from "in the low 20's" up to a livable temperature. Wood has an insulation value of R-1 per inch, so basically you have nothing. The remainder of the floor has a layer of "Reflectix" style bubble/aluminum foil layer which Don, the tour guide at the Factory claims has the same insulation value as the fiberglass that filled the cavity in earlier production. This layer is only half the thickness of "Reflectix" which you can find at Lowes, & apparently has an R value of around 12, providing two layers are used, along with an air space between.
I would add a layer of rigid foam/aluminum foil on top of the floor below the bed, then add a layer of 1/4" plywood on top of the foam to support your "stuff".
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The added weight of the plywood seems a potential issue, as does eventual compression of the insulating material due to the junk I toss in there. Is there any reasonable way to permanently apply insulating material (foam boards?) to the ceiling of the storage compartment instead?
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The added weight of the plywood seems a potential issue, as does eventual compression of the insulating material due to the junk I toss in there. Is there any reasonable way to permanently apply insulating material (foam boards?) to the ceiling of the storage compartment instead?
The plywood only needs to be 1/4" & as it will be supported throughout with the rigid foam, you shouldn't have any issues unless you put an anvil in there
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Hi, jumping in with dumb question, in the Summer do u remove the insulating bubble? I understand need in cold weather and infact we use dinette bed too so i will tape some under those cushions, but how is that with Summer heAt? Thanks in advance, nothing I like more than. Moving a corner matress around. I will have to fashion a little trap door to get to plumbing.
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Hi, jumping in with dumb question, in the Summer do u remove the insulating bubble? I understand need in cold weather and infact we use dinette bed too so i will tape some under those cushions, but how is that with Summer heAt? Thanks in advance, nothing I like more than. Moving a corner matress around. I will have to fashion a little trap door to get to plumbing.
It should help to keep the "cool" in during the summer. It's a "win win"
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Oh well then I am on it, seems like easy fix, couple rolls , lay layer one going east and west, tape down, then lay next north and sourth, make door to get a pipes, seal around edges with aluminum tape and i've got myself a mod. Will do dinette seats too. Easy peasey.
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