Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-17-2017, 12:00 PM   #1
4 Rivet Member
 
time2play's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Kent , Washington
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 341
Surge Protector

I've been searching these forums trying to figure out which surge protector we should buy for our 2013 Classic. Looks like most people seem to be recommending the Progressive Industries surge protector.

But when I look at their website, there are quite a few different models. I've narrowed it down to this one:
http://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems-pt-x

Do you agree this is the best one for our trailer? The price is more than I was planning on spending. I remember doing some research when we first bought our trailer and I thought they were about $175. Has the price gone up that much?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
__________________

__________________
Yolanda (and Phil)
2013 30' Classic Limited
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD
ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Control Hitch
WBCCI #7878
time2play is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 01:59 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
2017 30' Classic
Carlisle , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by time2play View Post
I've been searching these forums trying to figure out which surge protector we should buy for our 2013 Classic. Looks like most people seem to be recommending the Progressive Industries surge protector.

But when I look at their website, there are quite a few different models. I've narrowed it down to this one:
http://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems-pt-x

Do you agree this is the best one for our trailer? The price is more than I was planning on spending. I remember doing some research when we first bought our trailer and I thought they were about $175. Has the price gone up that much?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
Hi

That's the one I have on my Classic. You want the 50 amp version, not the 30 amp. The "ems" versions do a better job of protection (they disconnect the trailer) than a simple surge setup. That's the main driver on the cost. They are way cheaper than just about anything you would loose in a bum connect situation or a surge.

Bob
__________________

__________________
uncle_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 03:08 PM   #3
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,864
Images: 2
I hardwired this one when I upgraded from 30 to 50AMP
EMS-HW50C. It can do both 30 & 50.

I have a "remote" display so monitoring is no problem.

Plug into the pedestal, check monitor for proper power status.. start switching on systems... heavy loads initially.. verify power is stable...

Also when original went up in smoke, upgraded converter.
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 08:08 AM   #4
Rivet Master
 
2017 30' Classic
Carlisle , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,819
Hi

When I got mine, I was all set to go hard wired into the trailer. I mentioned what I was going to do and multiple people cautioned me about this being a fire risk. I asked for further details, but nobody seemed to have any hard data. Even though it sounded like voodoo to me, I went with the external unit.

Bob
__________________
uncle_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 08:43 AM   #5
3 Rivet Member
 
2012 28' International
Prince Edward County , Ontario
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 111
We bought this one (an older model it appears) in the 30 amp version almost four years ago. It has served us well and last summer shut the power off when the park's voltage dropped too low (the AC was running at the time and we were away).

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...y-50-amp/81278
__________________
Cyclist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 09:03 AM   #6
3 Rivet Member
 
bganso's Avatar
 
1994 30' Excella
Truckee , California
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 208
Images: 1
This one (30 amp) on sale now: http://www.adventurerv.net/portable-...als_06_17_2017
__________________
bganso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 09:33 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
2017 30' Classic
Carlisle , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,819
Hi

I believe that the 30' Classic the OP has is set up with 50A service. You would want the 50A version for a 50A trailer. It would also do fine when running on 30A or 15A shore power.

Bob
__________________
uncle_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 10:27 AM   #8
3 Rivet Member
 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Huntsville , Alabama
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 106
I have older 30A (left over from previous TT) and new 50A for the AS.
We too experienced total shutdowns during low voltages at campground.
The newer one is harder to read the display, but would not connect without.
__________________
2017 Airstream 26U Twin
2017 F250 Platinum
MWBishop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 10:56 AM   #9
4 Rivet Member
 
time2play's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Kent , Washington
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 341
Thanks so much for all your advice!

I like the idea of hard-wire unit, rather than portable. How difficult is it to install? Is there a real advantage to having a permanent install, rather than portable?

And I found a website which sells the portable 50-amp at a reduced price:
http://rvsafety.net/proddetail.php?prod=EMS-LCHW50
This include free shipping.

The Progressive website charges $25 shipping! But I've never purchased from this website and do I still get the lifetime warranty even though it's purchased from a different website?

bganso - the product you referenced doesn't seem to be a Progressive, from what I can tell it's a different model.
__________________
Yolanda (and Phil)
2013 30' Classic Limited
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD
ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Control Hitch
WBCCI #7878
time2play is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 10:59 AM   #10
4 Rivet Member
 
time2play's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Kent , Washington
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 341
The link I posted is for a hard-wire unit. If we decide to get the portable, this is the one we'd purchase:
http://rvsafety.net/proddetail.php?prod=EMS-PT50X

Interesting that the portable is more expensive than the hard-wire. For some reason, I would think it would be the other way around.
__________________
Yolanda (and Phil)
2013 30' Classic Limited
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD
ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Control Hitch
WBCCI #7878
time2play is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 01:00 PM   #11
3 Rivet Member
 
2016 28' International
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Grand Rapids , Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 134
We've had a lot of success with this one from Progressive: SSP-50XL.
__________________
ArkFortyCal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 07:13 PM   #12
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,864
Images: 2
1- to steal the SP they will probably need to steal the AS
2- from inside the AS I can get status on the Permanent SP without going in the rain.
3- you can run 30AMP power thru the 50... but you can't push 50 thru a 30... as far as I know.
4- no need for a "locking cover" to minimize threat of theft...
5- no key to lose, misplace, or have someone with bolt cutters relieve you of your troublesome SP..
6- hard to replace the "plug" end of the portable SP... I don't know how it is done... maybe Progressive will replace under lifetime warranty???

Downsides...
A- if onboard SP fails, you have no power in the AS .. unless you know how to jury-rig it.. no, I won't disclose how to do that...
B- I have no other idea
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2017, 07:31 PM   #13
Rivet Master
 
2017 30' Classic
Carlisle , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf View Post
1- to steal the SP they will probably need to steal the AS
2- from inside the AS I can get status on the Permanent SP without going in the rain.
3- you can run 30AMP power thru the 50... but you can't push 50 thru a 30... as far as I know.
4- no need for a "locking cover" to minimize threat of theft...
5- no key to lose, misplace, or have someone with bolt cutters relieve you of your troublesome SP..
6- hard to replace the "plug" end of the portable SP... I don't know how it is done... maybe Progressive will replace under lifetime warranty???

Downsides...
A- if onboard SP fails, you have no power in the AS .. unless you know how to jury-rig it.. no, I won't disclose how to do that...
B- I have no other idea
Hi

Commonly claimed "other downside": surge comes along from close lightning strike, hardwired protector bursts into a ball of flame ...

Bob
__________________
uncle_bob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2017, 01:04 PM   #14
4 Rivet Member
 
time2play's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Kent , Washington
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 341
Thanks again for all the information.

I'm leaning towards the hardwire unit. For those of you who installed the hardwire unit, where exactly did you install it?

Thank you again.
__________________

__________________
Yolanda (and Phil)
2013 30' Classic Limited
2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500HD
ProPride 3P Trailer Sway Control Hitch
WBCCI #7878
time2play is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I'm new. Need for surge protector? bcombs Member Introductions 14 11-09-2013 07:47 AM
1968 - Progressive Ind. 30 amp surge protector? Randy Gates 1965 - 1969 Globetrotter 13 10-17-2011 01:35 PM
Room for in-line surge protector in 23' Intl? Hoonanea Electrical - Systems, Generators, Batteries & Solar 0 10-03-2011 11:07 AM
Loud Humming Noise from Surge Protector Michigander Land Yacht/Legacy Motorhomes 8 07-23-2011 03:56 AM
surge protector pip8688 Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 15 08-09-2010 05:14 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.